Dave Winer: SOAP

Fri, 11 Oct 2002 03:01:30 GMT

Sat, 31 Aug 2002 00:04:27 GMT

Using the Mozilla SOAP API. With the release of Mozilla 1.0, the world now has a browser that supports SOAP natively. No longer do the tasks of assembling, executing, and handling SOAP operations fall solely on the server side. This article shows you how Web applications running in Mozilla can now make SOAP calls directly from the client without requiring a browser refresh or additional calls to the server. [O'Reilly Network Articles]

Fri, 07 Jun 2002 04:55:01 GMT

Steve Zellers: "The problem I have with SOAP and web services right now is that too much is being shoehorned into what should be a fairly trivial spec. We should be done by now, but we never will be because the cost to implement the spec will be too great." [Scripting News]

Thu, 11 Apr 2002 23:14:43 GMT

We started a sub-directory on SoapWare.Org for the Google API.

Thu, 11 Apr 2002 23:14:12 GMT

Using the Google API with Radio and Frontier.

Thu, 11 Apr 2002 23:09:09 GMT

Google: "With the Google Web APIs service, software developers can query more than 2 billion web documents directly from their own computer programs."

Sun, 07 Apr 2002 21:14:22 GMT

Something to think about. If Google is actually going to have a SOAP interface, what would such an interface look like? What would it do? What would be the most valuable SOAP calls? Which way does information flow? Should they support the Weblogs.Com ping interface? (I think so.) Let your mind run free. I think most of us use Google daily through its HTML interface. What will its web services interface do?

BigCo's get Vague Support from Quote Mills

Thu, 14 Mar 2002 15:29:24 GMT

BigCo web services blah blah blah. "For those people who did think that this was a flash in the pan, I think they can set that aside. But it's also not a silver bullet." OK.

Sun, 13 Jan 2002 19:46:42 GMT

NewsIsFree supports publish-subscribe. "Now the excellent NewsIsFree network, spearheaded by Mike Krus, a gutsy Frenchman who's always up for something new, includes a element in their RSS feeds and if you subscribe to those feeds, and if you're not behind a firewall or NAT, you can get instant news from those sources, not just at the top of the hour."

Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:45:20 GMT

XML.Com: Web Services Acronyms Demystified. "More than twenty acronyms related to Web services came to light during 2001, and in this article I present a quick guide to the protocols and the specifications behind them, including a description of how they relate to each other and where each sits on the Web services landscape."

This reminds me of clubs with secret handshakes. To get in the club you have to memorize the proper incantations. In software such clubs are always lonely places. Busy developers don't have time.

"the pope"

Tue, 08 Jan 2002 23:32:28 GMT

Steven Vaughan-Nichols: Fat protocols slow Web services. To form an opinion on this you'd have to have an application in mind and then do some performance comparisons under realistic loads. My intuition says it doesn't matter much how fat XML is for protocols -- the Internet and LANs have scaled to push around lots of images and MP3s, which are huge compared to a SOAP or XML-RPC message.

Sat, 01 Dec 2001 00:43:20 GMT

Drop the SOAP 1.0, "A bunch of simple AppleScripts for Mac OS X 10.1 and higher that use SOAP/XML-RPC web services."

Tue, 06 Nov 2001 18:51:27 GMT

Will Conant: "The Mind Electric's implementation of SOAP is far better than Sun's implementation of RMI."

Mon, 22 Oct 2001 20:43:53 GMT

Economist: "Windows XP is the first consumer version of the 15-year-old program in which crashing does not seem to come as a standard feature."

Mon, 22 Oct 2001 15:03:44 GMT

NY Times: "Microsoft's pitch to developers is greatly weakened because of [the antitrust conviction]," said Dave Winer, co-author of SOAP and chief executive of UserLand, a developer of Web tools. "Microsoft's only vision is lock-in."

Fri, 19 Oct 2001 02:43:29 GMT

XML.Com: "SOAP 1.1 has become a de facto standard, with broad industry support from many vendors, large and small."

Sun, 20 May 2001 00:32:11 GMT

The Code Project: SOAPing without a Web Server.

Fri, 18 May 2001 14:38:27 GMT

Paul Kulchenko: SOAP Cookbook.

Tue, 01 May 2001 19:12:06 GMT

On the Apache soap-dev mail list they're talking about doing a new build. So it appears to be lockdown time in SOAP 1.1 interop. With Microsoft and Apache deploying the results of the interop work, it's time for UserLand to do the same and ask developers to start building apps. [Scripting News]

Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:59:28 GMT

Brent McLaughlin: A closer look at SOAP.

Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:20:17 GMT

Jon Udell: "Most of us, I guess, don't try to eat the whole XML layer cake, and would get sick if we tried."

Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:23:42 GMT

Rhett Guthrie: "I am designing a SOAP service for a client. Very exciting work. I have a question about how to best structure the service." [Scripting News]

Sat, 14 Apr 2001 20:06:51 GMT

I've been thinking about next steps in SOAP 1.1 interop. We seem to be getting through the wire level, so the next thing is to have a set of criteria for application-level interop. I understand that there are lots of potential uses for SOAP, but our interest is clearly in the Web as a writing environment. I also understand that the world revolves around Microsoft until we prove otherwise. So here's the benchmark I propose. First, deliver a multi-vendor SOAP-based writing-publishing system that uses no Microsoft software. Then switch out the non-Microsoft components with Microsoft pieces, one at a time, and have it still work. [Scripting News]

Sat, 14 Apr 2001 15:03:26 GMT

Paolo Marcucci has a Visual Basic script that converts a Word document to OPML. He says "Next step is importing a OPML file in Word, rebuilding the document format, and using Simon's function to pack it into a SOAP message." [Scripting News]

Sun, 08 Apr 2001 22:51:10 GMT

Wire dumps: "This table shows an example request and response for each of the xmlStorageSystem calls, in both XML-RPC and SOAP 1.1."

Sat, 07 Apr 2001 16:27:13 GMT

A new entry-point for xmlStorageSystem. [Scripting News]

Thu, 05 Apr 2001 06:29:31 GMT

In an interview today I compared SOAP to the NYC subway system, specifically Queens Borough Plaza. The cool thing about QBP is that you can switch from the IRT to the BMT there, cutting a corner off a trip to the Bronx from Flushing. Originally there were three subway systems in NY, but sometime before I came online (ie before I was born) they got their interop act together so you could freely switch from one line to the other, combining features of two or three lines to create your own customized trip. I imagine that they had a mail list for their interop work, like the soapbuilders list, where the BMT guys thought the IRT guys were a bunch of bozos, but they had to work with them anyway; and the IND guys were worried about getting stuffed into the trunk. [Scripting News]

Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:47:11 GMT

Heads up: A key difference between SOAP and XML-RPC.

Wed, 28 Mar 2001 22:29:41 GMT

Dave and Jake: A Busy Developer's Guide to SOAP 1.1. Draft. [Scripting News]

Sat, 24 Mar 2001 21:14:19 GMT

Pat Thoyts: SOAP for Tcl. [Scripting News]

Fri, 23 Mar 2001 00:38:50 GMT

There are now 41 SOAP 1.1 implementations. [Scripting News]

Wed, 21 Mar 2001 02:12:40 GMT

Tony Hong has a list of SOAP 1.1 interop issues.

Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:46:27 GMT

I posted a plan for the Interopathon process today on the SoapWare site. If you know a SOAP 1.1 implementor please make sure he or she sees this page. It's very important that this process be inclusive, if it's to make a difference. [Scripting News]

Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:29:33 GMT

Jabber.Org: Integration of full support for XML-RPC and SOAP. [Scripting News]

Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:14:09 GMT

Simon Fell started a WSDL issues site.

Mon, 12 Mar 2001 14:49:07 GMT

Interview: Dave Winer on Radio Userland. We interview Dave Winer, founder of UserLand Software, about his newest creation, Radio Userland. Thirteen years in the making, Radio Userland puts an industrial strength Web server on your desktop. Designed to be extended by developers, Radio will also appeal to the masses with its news aggregator and weblog features. By Andy King. 0312

Mon, 12 Mar 2001 01:01:26 GMT

Mark Watson: "I may be too optimistic, but I do believe that the SOAP platform will transcend the Microsoft-only world of Windows and will provide a universal platform for building web based applications and platform independent clients."

Sun, 11 Mar 2001 06:41:16 GMT

DizzyD talks about Jabber as middleware. As I understand it, we could use Jabber to transport XML-RPC and SOAP messages. Instead of sending a procedure call to an IP address, or domain name, you'd send it to a Jabber user. This would allow us to design groupware applications that reach any desktop Jabber can get to, and it would allow you to move around. (You'd have to have the groupware software on every machine, though.)

Sun, 11 Mar 2001 04:03:44 GMT

Simon Fell: "So, following all the fuss on the SOAP list over WSDL, I thought I'd have another look at the current WSDL tools, to see if they've improved at all since last time I looked, here's a brief summary of what I found."

Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:03:20 GMT

Important but small changes in the ManilaRPC interface, remove the requirement for base64 encoding and decoding in client apps.

Fri, 09 Mar 2001 00:40:06 GMT

Microsoft: SOAP Toolkit Beta 2.0.

Thu, 08 Mar 2001 23:50:15 GMT

Intuit is operating an XML-over-HTTP programmable database called QuickBase. It's free. Interesting.

Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:17:02 GMT

A frequently asked question. What's the connection between SOAP and Jabber? It would be great to get a comparative review of these technologies by someone who's knows XML. Could Jabber have a SOAP or XML-RPC interface? If so, what would it look like? Does it make sense from the Jabber developer point of view? What would be the win? I don't have time to dig into this myself at this time but am interested in reading a comparison of the technologies.

Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:15:58 GMT

The world's best-kept secret. There's SOAP 1.1 support for Mozilla. Update. We now have 37 SOAP 1.1 implementations in the SoapWare directory, maintained by Paul Kulchenko. And now I don't have to count them by hand, each page on the directory says how many items it contains. A small convenience. Also each page links to its OPML source through the white-on-orange XML icon.

Tue, 06 Mar 2001 03:22:23 GMT

RFC: A Little IDL. "I decided to define a simple interface definition language in XML that's suitable for scripting environments, and see if people find holes in its functionality, or if it's useful, or something we want to do. It's little and human-readable. The goal is to have it work with scripting systems that are wired up to XML-RPC or SOAP 1.1."

Thu, 01 Mar 2001 18:52:56 GMT

ActiveState: PerlEx 2.0. "Easily build and deploy Web Services that utilize SOAP."

Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:16:53 GMT

PythonWare's SOAP validates.

Wed, 28 Feb 2001 20:15:17 GMT

It's time that SOAP had a directory.

Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:10:25 GMT

Builder.Com: An Introduction to SOAP. Nice!

Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:09:42 GMT

Radio: SOAP-in-Radio Checklist.

Tue, 27 Feb 2001 15:03:33 GMT

Miguel de Icaza is working on SOAP-for-Gnome. Bravo! Scroll to the end of this News.Com article for clues. Also gotta include a plug for KDE, which is a longtime supporter of XML-RPC.

Tue, 20 Feb 2001 20:50:12 GMT

Gigaideas: SOAP Client for PHP.

Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:11:47 GMT

White Mesa: SOAP for RPC NT Service.

Sun, 11 Feb 2001 20:21:19 GMT

Simon Fell started a SOAP Manila site, and is documenting stuff there. And he's getting his SOAP implementation to work with Manila's SOAP interface. I am breathing a sigh of relief. It's starting to really work!

Fri, 02 Feb 2001 21:41:03 GMT

UserLand's SOAP 1.1 Validator. This approach worked really well for finding the incompatibilities between XML-RPC implementations. Let's find out if we work together!

Fri, 02 Feb 2001 04:46:59 GMT

Perl.Com: Quick Start with SOAP.

Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:14:45 GMT

4S4C SOAP services for COM updated. Simon Fell has released version 1.3 of 4S4C, his SOAP library for COM integration, now including a WSDL generator.

Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:01:00 GMT

Paul Kulchenko: SOAP::Lite 0.45.

Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:00:08 GMT

Bug fixes for MS SOAP Toolkit 2.0 Beta 1. Roger Wolter from Microsoft announced a refresh of Microsoft's SOAP Toolkit 2.0 beta 1, with fixes to "few of the more vexing bugs that have been reported thus far."

Wed, 10 Jan 2001 13:00:08 GMT

Eric Kidd released XML-RPC for C/C++.

Sat, 06 Jan 2001 15:00:16 GMT

Two-Way-Web: SOAP meets RSS.

Fri, 05 Jan 2001 04:00:36 GMT

What is Brazil?

Thu, 04 Jan 2001 18:00:19 GMT

DaveNet: Desktop Websites.

Thu, 04 Jan 2001 17:00:05 GMT

Thte SOAP weblog gets XMLized.

Wed, 03 Jan 2001 16:00:07 GMT

Internet News: Microsoft Updates Web Services Tools. The software powerhouse improves two tools for Web developers.

Fri, 29 Dec 2000 19:00:11 GMT

Syd Egan: SOAP for Visual Basic.

Fri, 29 Dec 2000 00:00:33 GMT

Mary Jo Foley: Web services, few actually deliver. "Are the industry leaders onto a hot trend? Or are the emperors parading around without clothes?"

Thu, 28 Dec 2000 20:40:37 GMT

C/C++ User's Journal on SOAP.

Tue, 26 Dec 2000 17:00:15 GMT

PocketSOAP is a "SOAP client COM component for the Windows family, originally targeted at PocketPC (hence the name)."

Sat, 23 Dec 2000 19:15:12 GMT

ZDNN: Netdocs: Microsoft's .Net poster child? According to sources, Netdocs is a single, integrated application that will include a full suite of functions, including e-mail, personal information management, document-authoring tools, digital-media management, and instant messaging.

Sat, 23 Dec 2000 19:15:09 GMT

Microsoft throws more muscle into SOAP. Microsoft have released SOAP Toolkit 2.0 Beta 1, which integreates WSDL more thoroughly, and is also billed as a "fully Microsoft supported product."