Instead of CSS flamers (they're funny in the begining, useless in the middle, and boring in the end), we need CSS experts who teach the benefits and explain us the shortcomings of the technology and its mainstream implementations. Because of course most people see the advantages/goals of CSS1/2, we just need to learn the subset of CSS1/2 that actually works in today's browsers, so that indeed CSS can make our lives easier.
I wonder why the CSS flamers have not yet found in usenet archives the name of the poor guy who dared inventing the <table> tag some years ago; found him and flamed him during days, days, days.
CSS flamers/semantic flamers should sometimes remember that when we make a building accessible for people with wheelchairs, people who walk can still enter the building.
I'm wondering... How many tables can you nest on a modern computer before it runs out of memory? Anyone wants to write a simple javacript loop ?.. eh