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  Monday, June 11, 2007

War on terror

Wash Park Prophet: "Al-Marri wins Habeas appeal."

"2008 pres"
6:54:11 PM     

Religion and politics

Political Wire: "A new Gallup survey finds that 41% of Americans believe that creationism -- 'the idea that God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years' -- is true while 28% believe evolution -- 'the idea that human beings developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life' -- is true. Meanwhile, another 24% believe the answer lies somewhere in the middle of the two theories."

"2008 pres"
6:46:26 PM     

Energy policy: Oil shale development
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Governor Ritter's review of the BLM's report on potential oil shale development in Colorado is due tomorrow. The bureau extended the original deadline two weeks after a request from Colorado and Wyoming. From Colorado Confidential:

Local northwest Colorado town and county officials and the governor's office were "sworn to secrecy." The federal government report was still in its draft stages and it was too early to inform the public or press about its contents. The matter was very urgent, the U.S. government agency said, therefore local entities had a short turn around time to respond to this secret plan. Very short--weeks. Some Coloradan officials felt the pressure from the federal government was unnecessarily intense and their goals unrealistic.

The BLM release date for the oil shale SEIS plan is set tentatively for July 13. There will be a 90-day public review period.

"2008 pres"
6:19:47 PM     


Daily Kos: "As predicted, the no confidence vote on Gonzale didn't make cloture, with a vote of 53-38, with one voting 'present.'"

"2008 pres"
6:11:46 PM     

? for President?

Political Wire: "A new CNN/WMUR poll finds Sen. Hillary Clinton pulling away from the pack in New Hampshire with 36% support, followed by Sen. Barack Obama at 22% and John Edwards at 12%. In the last two months, Clinton's support has grown by 9 points, Obama's has grown by just 2 points and Edwards has tumbled 9 points."

Political Wire: "Sen. John McCain's presidential candidacy 'clearly is struggling, and a just-completed Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg Poll is not going to buoy his camp's spirits... Not only do Rudy Giuliani and Fred Thompson enjoy more support among GOP-leaning voters, but the Arizona senator finds himself in heated competition with the Don't Know category.'" "A new AP-Ipsos national survey nds: Sen. Hillary Clinton leads Sen. Barack Obama 33% to 21% in a national primary; former V.P. Al Gore runs at 20%, former Sen. John Edwards at 12%; former Mayor Rudy Giuliani leads Sen. John McCain 27% to 19%; former Sen. Fred Thompson runs at 17%, former Gov. Mitt Romney at 10%, and former Speaker Newt Gingrich at 7%."

Talking Points Memo: "New February 5th glut of primaries upends the strategies of the GOP Presidential candidates."

"2008 pres"
6:05:24 PM     

100 Years of San Luis Valley Reservoirs
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DARCA: "A huge celebration is being planned to commemorate 100 Years of San Luis Valley Reservoirs. Three days, July 23, 24, and 25th will be filled with a wide variety of activities, including a full-day symposium at Adams State College entitled 'Water Storage in the San Luis Valley; the Past, the Present, and the Future.' There are also many fun, family activities, hayrides to the Rio Grande, Chamber of Commerce sponsored events and stagecoach rides in both Monte Vista and Alamosa, and tours of the reservoirs. The traveling exhibit and DVD produced for the celebration will be shown for the first time, as well as contest winners announced, lots of great music and good food. For details go to website:

"colorado water"
7:10:19 AM     


The Fort Wayne News-Sentinel: "Three months after additional U.S. troops began pouring into Baghdad in the most recent effort to stanch violence in Iraq's capital, military observers are fretting that the same problems that torpedoed last summer's Baghdad security plan are cropping up again. Violence is on the rise, Iraqi troops aren't showing up to secure neighborhoods, U.S. troops are having to revisit neighborhoods they'd already cleared, and Iraq's politicians haven't met any of their benchmarks. With expectations high in Washington for a September assessment from new Iraq commander Army Gen. David Petraeus, military officials in Iraq already are saying they'll need more time. One thing is already clear, however: The additional U.S. troops haven't yet had a major impact on reducing violence."

Captain's Quarters: "Earlier this year, the disputes over the strategy for Iraq could get boiled down to three directions: go big, go home, or go long. Today's Washington Post reports that the third option has begun to get the most traction in both DC and Baghdad, as the two governments look for the best way to fight terror while ending the appearance of an occupation."

"2008 pres"
6:53:37 AM     


Jesus' General: "In many ways, questions about public health are scientific in nature. Medicine is a science, after all, in which biological problems are discovered, diagnosed, and treated via the scientific method. Modern science has brought us a wealth of knowledge about how the body works plus important information about how to fix the body when it's broken, and thus also great improvements in both life expectancy and quality of life. The science of public health is indisputable -- but it's also not the whole story...

"2008 pres"
6:34:05 AM     

Feds to rehabilitate Mancos Project?
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Here's an article about the proposed rehabilitation of the diversion structures for Jackson Gulch Reservoir, from the Cortez Journal. From the article:

A bill asking for $6.2 million to help rehabilitate an aging water system for Mancos Valley residents was introduced in the U.S. Senate in late May by Colorado Sens. Wayne Allard and Ken Salazar. Within a couple of weeks, a similar bill is expected to be introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives by Colorado Rep. John Salazar. Gary Kennedy, superintendent of the Mancos Water Conservancy District, said the district would like to rehabilitate one mile of concrete box flume and four miles of earthen canal, which take water from the Mancos River to the Jackson Gulch Reservoir five miles north of Mancos and then back to the river. "While the canals are structurally sound, they don't hold water as well as they should," Kennedy said. "There is lots of seepage and lots of leakage." Kennedy estimated the district loses 20 percent of the water as it tries to fill Jackson Gulch Reservoir every spring. The project would line the canals with plastic to stop the leakage...

Since its construction in the late 1940s, Jackson Gulch Reservoir has provided supplemental agricultural water for about 237 farms and ranches with 8,650 irrigated acres plus a domestic water supply for Mesa Verde National Park, the 500 members of the Mancos Rural Water Co. and supplemental water for the town of Mancos, all of which operate their own water treatment plants. The West Mancos River provides the water that is stored in Jackson Reservoir, Kennedy said. Although the Mancos River flows year-round, "it basically dries to a trickle by mid-July," he said. Chicken Creek, Mud Creek, the East Mancos and Middle Mancos all converge into the Mancos River, but after spring runoff, the flow goes down to 15 or 20 cfs, so water users benefit from the 60 cfs of stored water the district puts into the river from Jackson Gulch Reservoir...

The U.S. Bureau of Reclamation owns the facilities of the Mancos Project, but the Mancos Water Conservancy District is the operating entity, responsible for maintenance. The district assesses members who use its water and also collects taxes from residents within the district. A state park there provides camping, fishing and recreation. In 1995, a small 25-kV hydroelectric plant was built. The plant sells power back to the electrical grid to help the water district with its expenses...

If everything sails through Congress this year, it probably will be two years before the money is available and work can get under way, he said. Another three to four years would be needed to complete the work because it can only be done during late summer and fall to avoid interrupting water flow. The total cost of the project is $8 million, with the federal government being asked to fund 80 percent of that.

"colorado water"
6:17:32 AM     


From Saturday's Rocky Mountain News, "U.S. Sen. Ken Salazar issued a challenge Friday to critics of the immigration reform bill he helped craft: If you don't like it, come up with something better. The Colorado Democrat still thinks he can breathe new life into the controversial measure, which took a big hit this week when it fell 15 votes short of the 60 needed to bring it up for final action."

"2008 pres"
6:05:31 AM     

? for President?

From the Denver Post, "Presidential candidate Bill Richardson finds himself in an interesting political spot. Not among the three Democratic front-runners, he also is no longer considered squarely in the second tier of presidential hopefuls. He's somewhere in the middle, his black cowboy boots straddling the gap between the upper echelon and the also-rans."

Also from today's Denver Post, "Hundreds of people sported campaign T-shirts and shelled out big bucks Sunday to show their support for Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., the third presidential hopeful to visit the area since Thursday. Organizers estimated about 750 people were on hand for the private fundraiser at Rocky Mountain Metropolitan Airport, paying as much as $500 a head for the chance to see the senator and his wife, Michelle."

More coverage from the Rocky Mountain News. They write, "Sunday was Obama's second campaign stop in Colorado in less than three months. Unlike his Denver visit in March, where his campaign workers let a large portion of a crowd of 2,000 in for free, entry to this venue was more controlled. Attendees estimated the crowd at 400 to 500 people. And this time, reporters were not permitted inside."

The Denver Post reports, "On Saturday, [Rudy] Giuliani shook a few random hands - a guy wearing a New York Yankees jersey, a woman who yelled over TV cameras, 'I'm a New Yorker!' - after taking questions from reporters on Iraq, immigration and his name recognition in the West. The former New York mayor is en route to Los Angeles and just came from New Mexico. Saturday's fundraising dinner was initially supposed to be held April 16, the day of the Virginia Tech shootings. The mayor canceled events for a few days following the incident."

Political Wire: "Among Mormons, Mitt Romney's bid for president 'is both a proud sign of progress and a cause of trepidation,' reports the New York Times. 'Many Mormons here are rooting for Mr. Romney, a fellow church member whose success in business, Adonis looks and wholesome family tableau seem to them to present the ideal face of Mormonism to the world. Among the Republican front-runners, Mr. Romney, former governor of Massachusetts, recently was the leader in campaign fund-raising; his candidacy is, for many Mormons, a historic moment of arrival...But even for the many Mormons who support Mr. Romney, the moment is fraught with anxiety because his candidacy is bringing intense scrutiny to their church, and could exacerbate longstanding bigotry.'"

Political Wire: "A new Center for Rural Strategies poll shows that concerns about the Iraq war, President Bush's job performance, and the economy have eroded Republican support among rural voters, creating opportunities for the Democrats in the 2008 presidential and congressional races."

Talking Points Memo: "Joel Achenbach has an interesting item today arguing that the extended presidential primary season has led the candidates in both parties to pander shamelessly, in order to offer more 'red meat' to their respective bases. I think Achenbach is only half right."

"2008 pres"
5:54:26 AM     

Bond issues on November ballot?

Denver voters may be asked to increase property taxes to pay for infrastructure needs that have been left unfunded over the past few years, according to the Denver Post. From the article:

A plan to pay for the upkeep of city services and for new cultural projects would cost the average Denver homeowner roughly $89 a year in increased property taxes. But that would still keep Denver with the lowest property-tax rate in the metro area, according to city officials. A task force of 110 business and community leaders appointed by Mayor John Hickenlooper has spent more than a year examining the city's infrastructure needs. The group has made preliminary recommendations to fund as much as $567 million in deferred maintenance costs and new projects for the city...

To pay for it all, the task force is looking at a three-part financing package to take to voters: A $340 million bond issue to repair infrastructure across the city that has been neglected by a maintenance funding gap. A property-tax increase to fund the city's $27 million annual funding gap for maintenance. A second bond issue for $227 million to fund new projects. Because the task force and city officials have yet to make final decisions, it is unclear when and if each part of the plan would go to voters or whether voters will be asked to pass each part a la carte or as a single package. But voters are likely to see something in November. The city would be able to fund the $340 million bond issue without increasing the current tax rate. Voters would effectively be asked to keep the tax rate the same as old bonds they are already paying for retire. Without the bond issue, property taxes on the average home in Denver - considered to be one valued at $250,000 - would go down by about $50 a year.

The second arm of funding - a mill levy increase of 2.5 mills - would increase the taxes on a $250,000 home by about $50 a year. That money is intended to prevent future infrastructure bonds for maintenance by establishing a new fund for maintenance costs. Currently, Denver homeowners pay $5.33 for every $1,000 of assessed value on their property. The proposed 2.5-mill tax increase would push that number to $5.53 per $1,000. Miller said the mill increase is the solution to the underlying problem Denver has in funding maintenance...

The third prong of the package, a second bond issue for $227 million, would go for new projects. That bond issue would increase property taxes by another $39 a year for a $250,000 property - or 15 cents for every $1,000 of assessed value. If all three prongs are passed, Denver residents would increase the property-tax rate by 35 cents per $1,000 of valuation, to a total of $5.68. City officials said that figure would still keep Denver's property taxes at the lowest in the region - 15 cents per $1,000 lower than the next-lowest city, Aurora.

"denver n2007"
5:52:26 AM     

Conservation easements in South Park
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According to Great Outdoors Colorado has funded 19 conservation easements up in South Park. From the article:

Thanks to $5 million from Great Outdoors Colorado, conservation easements have been secured for 19 ranches in the Colorado mountain basin called South Park. The funding saves historic ranches and great expanses of open space in south central Colorado for the future. Several ranchers have opened up portions of their property to fishermen who pay no more than $60 per day for access to pristine trout waters. The added income is used by ranchers to restore river banks, grasslands and historic buildings, making the area rich for "heritage tourism."[...]

The region's new conservation easements now protect important stretches of South Park's ranches from future development. Not only does that safeguard rare vistas, it also protects valuable open space and preserves a precious Colorado heritage. "The integrity and authenticity of this 1,000 square mile basin has been changed very little over the last 100 years," Nichols said. Seeing their agricultural legacy as an asset, the visionaries of the South Park are now growing with the idea of "heritage tourism."

"colorado water"
5:30:38 AM     

Interbasin Compact Committee Basin Rountables
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Here's a preview of this week's Arkansas River Basin Roundtable meeting from the Pueblo Chieftain. They write:

Recreation will be center-stage this week when the Arkansas Basin Roundtable meets in Poncha Springs. Presentations at the meeting will look at boating and fishing along the Arkansas River, including a review of lakes in the upper part of the basin. The roundtable also will discuss how its efforts fit into an overall state plan. "This is a good opportunity for those who want to talk about recreation to attend a roundtable meeting," said Alan Hamel, president of the roundtable. The meeting is scheduled from 12:30 to 3 p.m. Wednesday at the Chaffee County Fairgrounds, located west of Salida in Poncha Springs...

Rick Brown of the CWCB staff will discuss the agency's efforts to incorporate uses of water other than the traditional agricultural, municipal and industrial uses accounted for in past planning efforts. Future water needs will have to look at new recreational water rights, as well as concerns for fisheries, wildlife and environmental water quality. The voluntary flow agreement for recreational purposes between Twin Lakes and Lake Pueblo is an example of how emerging water needs in the Upper Arkansas have been combined with water supply concerns of users in the lower end of the valley, Hamel said...

The [voluntary flow program] is an agreement among the Bureau of Reclamation, the Southeastern Colorado Water Conservancy District, rafters, fishermen and others to augment flows for rafting until mid-August, and to maintain flows beneficial to fisheries at other times of the year. The water used to support flows in the river is transmountain water from the Fryingpan-Arkansas Project, sometimes provided by other users like the Pueblo Board of Water Works, where Hamel is executive director. Since the voluntary flow program began in 1990, the rafting industry on the Upper Arkansas has grown into a $70 million a year business for the area. The state, as it developed the Arkansas Headwaters Recreation Area, has begun leasing water for both recreation and wildlife needs.

Recreational in-channel diversions are a new kind of water right that has been granted for two kayak courses in Chaffee County and one in Pueblo County. State water officials have struggled to understand how the water rights should be incorporated into the hierarchy of existing and future appropriations. The roundtable's role will be to help the state Interbasin Compact Committee make its recommendations to the CWCB as part of the needs assessment, said Hamel, who is also an IBCC member.

The South Platte Roundtable Meeting is on Tuesday at 4:00 p.m. at Southwest Weld County Bldg. 4209 Weld County Rd 24 1/2.

The Metro Roundtable Meeting is Wednesday at 4:00 p.m. at Parker Water and Sanitation District North Reclamation Plant 18100 E. Woodman Dr.

Meeting information can be found here.

"colorado water"
5:23:06 AM     

Energy policy: Oil shale development
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Here's a look at oil shale development from the Deseret News. They write:

Colorado and Utah have as much oil as Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, Venezuela, Nigeria, Kuwait, Libya, Angola, Algeria, Indonesia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates combined. That's not science fiction. Trapped in limestone up to 200 feet thick in the two Rocky Mountain states is enough so-called shale oil to rival OPEC and supply the U.S. for a century. Exxon Mobil Corp. and Chevron Corp., the two biggest U.S. energy companies, and Royal Dutch Shell Plc are spending $100 million a year testing new methods to separate the oil from the stone for as little as $30 a barrel. A growing number of industry executives and analysts say new technology and persistently high prices make the idea feasible. "The breakthrough is that now the oil companies have a way of getting this oil out of the ground without the massive energy and manpower costs that killed these projects in the 1970s," said Pete Stark, an analyst at IHS Inc., an Englewood, Colo., research firm. "All the shale rocks in the world are going to be revisited now to see how much oil they contain."[...]

Energy providers are investing in shale oil production because the reserves are large enough to generate higher returns than smaller fields in Oklahoma and Texas, where output is declining after eight decades. Shale is also a more attractive investment than new U.S. refineries, which Shell and Chevron say may lose money as rising use of crop-based fuels such as ethanol lowers domestic gasoline demand. Exxon says it isn't interested in building new fuel plants in the U.S. because the company expects North American fuel consumption to peak by 2025...

In the high desert near Rifle, Colo., Shell engineers are burying hundreds of steel rods 2,000 feet underground that will heat the shale to 700 degrees Fahrenheit, a temperature at which Teflon melts. The heat will be applied for the next four years to convert the hydrocarbons from dead plants and plankton, once part of a prehistoric lake, into high-quality crude that is equal parts jet fuel, diesel and naphtha, the main ingredient in gasoline.

Chevron, which helped build the Saudi Arabian energy industry when it struck oil in the kingdom in 1938, plans to shatter 200-foot thick layers of shale deep underground, said Robert Lestz, the company's oil-shale technology manager. Rather than using heat to transform the shale into crude, Chevron plans to saturate the rubble with chemicals to convert it. The method will reduce power needs and production costs, Lestz said in a May 24 interview. Using chemical reactions to get oil from shale also means fewer byproducts such as ash and fewer greenhouse gases, he said. Chevron scientists are working with researchers at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico to determine which chemicals work best for converting shale to crude oil. Shell's heating technique amounts to "a brute-force approach," said Lestz, who is based in Houston.

Raytheon Co., the maker of Tomahawk missiles and the first microwave ovens, is developing a process that would use radio waves to cook the shale.

Exxon Mobil, based in Irving, Texas, plans to shoot particles of petroleum coke, a waste by-product of oil refining, into cracks in the shale. The coke will be electrically charged to create a subterranean hot plate that will cook the shale until it turns into crude...

Shell, based in the Hague, estimates it can extract oil from Colorado shale for $30 a barrel, less than half the recent price of about $66 for benchmark New York futures. Shell's process includes surrounding each shale field with an underground wall of ice. The so-called freeze walls are to prevent groundwater from swamping the heating rods and to protect the local water supply from contamination as the organic material in the rocks turns to oil, according to Terry O'Connor, the Shell vice president in charge of the company's Colorado shale project.

"2008 pres"
5:08:35 AM     

CDOW buys water for John Martin Reservoir
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From Saturday's Denver Post, "The Colorado Division of Wildlife and Colorado Division of Parks and Outdoor Recreation have joined to purchase an additional 2,000 acre feet of water for storage in John Martin Reservoir, near Las Animas. The water will be added to the permanent storage pool of a reservoir that has suffered severe drawdown from recent drought, but this year has received a substantial water boost from strong runoff on the Arkansas River."

"colorado water"
4:55:03 AM     

Energy policy: Nuclear
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The Greeley Tribune "reg" is running a short article about the price of uranium and Powertech's proposed in-situ mining project up in Weld County. From the article:

Keith Kohl, editor of, said in his latest report that the price of uranium has increased from $20 a pound in 2005 to a current level of $120 per pound. He does not see that upward trend to stop any time soon. "I expect uranium to top $255 a pound by the end of 2008," Kohl said in the report. Kohl said the price is being driven by a demand for nuclear power. Only 60 percent of the requirements of the world's nuclear power is being supplied. About 16 percent of the world's electricity is supplied from 440 nuclear generators. But Kohl said there are 29 new reactors under construction and another 66 are being planned. Japan intends to add 11 more by 2010, and China hopes to add 24-30 by 2020, he said. The supply-demand balance for uranium, he said, is tighter than any other major commodity. Energy and Capital, an online journal dedicated to energy, said finding highly concentrated deposits of uranium in large quantities is difficult. More than 50 percent of all the uranium produced from mines comes from Canada and Australia.

In Weld, Powertech plans to use a method called in-situ recovery, a process that mining companies say is safer than traditional operations. The process is done by injecting a bicarbonate solution that will mobilize the uranium. Blubaugh said Powertech's drilling should be a couple of hundreds of feet deep and will create some noise but not as much as an oil-drilling site, which drills thousands of feet below ground level. There are, however, residents in Weld who have said that process will destroy their drinking water. They have organized to protest any mining operations.

Uranium mining in Weld: Uranium mining is not new to Weld County. Uranium test sites were done in 1979 in the Grover and Keota area -- According to Carol Shwayder's book on Weld County history, the Wyoming Mineral Corp. of Fort Collins operated a leaching plant at the site; A year ago, Powertech Uranium Corp. bought the mineral rights to the 5,780 acres of land from Anadarko Petroleum Corp. Blubaugh said the company before Anadarko -- Rocky Mountain Energy Co. -- tested sites in northern Colorado and found uranium deposits throughout.

"2008 pres"
4:46:15 AM     

Peru Creek cleanup
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Here's an article about the cleanup up in the Peru Basin from the Summit Daily News "reg". They write:

New rules issued June 6 by the Environmental Protection Agency will speed up efforts to clean up pollution from orphaned mines by addressing some of the thorny liability issues up front. Voluntary projects have long been stymied by threats of a third-party lawsuit. The new rules make it clear where those liabilities begin and end, said the EPA's Nat Miullo...

At the same time, he emphasized that the changes will not undercut any existing environmental protections or affect liability at sites where a responsible party has been identified. "If someone disposes of mine waste in an inappropriate spot, we don't want to release them from liability," he said...

While the EPA deserves credit for taking this step, Russell said it still doesn't get to the heart of the liability issue, which relates to liability for pollution under the Clean Water Act. "I don't want anyone to think this is it," Russell said, explaining that an act of Congress is needed to address those fundamental Clean Water Act issues. Past agreements on voluntary cleanups have sometimes taken years to complete. "The mother of all these was French Gulch," he said, referring to an arduous multi-year stakeholder negotiation that eventually led to a remediation plan at the site of the Wellington-Oro Mine, with construction of a water treatment plan planned for this year. In EPA jargon, the new rules means the "EPA and volunteer parties will now be able to enter into Good Samaritan settlement sgreements (that) provide key legal protections to Good Samaritans as non-liable parties including: a federal covenant not to sue under CERCLA and protection from third-party contribution suits. Other tools include a model comfort letter intended for Good Samaritan parties. Good Samaritans to proceed with qualified projects, including efforts to remove and cap waste rock, tailings piles and soils contaminated with high levels of lead, arsenic, zinc, and other metals in areas where they threaten human health and water quality.

"colorado water"
4:38:46 AM     

Challenge to Denver's water rights in the Eagle River Basin?
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The Upper Eagle Regional Water Authority and the Eagle River Water & Sanitation District are hoping to get the water court to throw out Denver's water rights in the Eagle River Basin, according to the Vail Daily News "reg". From the article:

In the 1960s, the city and county of Denver bought up water rights on the Western Slope, including hundreds of thousands of acres in the Vail Valley. To keep water though, you have to use it -- or at least prepare to use it in the future. Hoarding unneeded water isn't allowed in Colorado. Every six years, Denver goes through the paper shuffle of water court to prove it's being diligent in using the water in some way or another. This is also a chance for someone to challenge those rights. The Upper Eagle Regional Water Authority and the Eagle River Water & Sanitation District pounced on that opportunity in 2002, arguing that Denver doesn't need the water and hasn't done enough to keep those water rights. Instead, that water should stay in the Vail Valley, they say. Now there will be a water trial that could have a profound impact on the future of the valley's water supply...

Denver is interested in close to 200,000 acre feet of water between Vail and Wolcott, which planners say is part of their long term vision for providing water to residents, a plan that reaches past 2030. They say people who don't plan that far ahead are caught without water and that water projects in metro areas take a long time to finish. They cite a water right purchased in 1902 and developed in the 1980s as an example. The big question will be if Denver has done enough in 35 years to prove that it can and will use the water rights in the Vail Valley. Glenn Porzak, the district's attorney, has said there's little to show for their planning -- meaning they haven't shown diligence in developing the water. Denver Water hasn't started tunneling ditches and laying down pipes, but they say hundreds of thousands of dollars have been invested in surveys and studies on developing a large reservoir in Wolcott and interests on the Piney River, north of Vail.

"colorado water"
4:31:41 AM     

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