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Political/Political Humor
Monday, October 6, 2003
[5:44:03 PM]     
The Top Ten Conservative Idiots (No. 129) [democraticunderground.com]:

"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." (Dick Cheney, August 26, 2002).

"Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons." (George W. Bush, September 12, 2002).

"If he declares he has none, then we will know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the world." (Ari Fleischer, December 2, 2002).

"We know for a fact that there are weapons there." (Ari Fleischer, January 9, 2003).

"Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent." (George W. Bush, January 28, 2003).

"We know that Saddam Hussein is determined to keep his weapons of mass destruction, is determined to make more." (Colin Powell, February 5, 2003).

"We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons - the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have." (George Bush February 8, 2003).

"So has the strategic decision been made to disarm Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction by the leadership in Baghdad? I think our judgment has to be clearly not." (Colin Powell, March 8, 2003).

"Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised." (George Bush, March 18, 2003).

"We know where they are. They are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad." (Donald Rumsfeld, March 30, 2003).

"At this point we have found substantial evidence of an intent of senior level Iraqi officials, including Saddam, to continue production at some future point in time of weapons of mass destruction. We have not found yet, and I'm sure you know this, otherwise you would know it earlier, we have not found at this point, actual weapons." (David Kay, chief U.S. weapons inspector in Iraq, October 3, 2003).

[12:43:43 PM]     
Schwarzenegger and Nazi stuff....

Usually, any mention of Nazis and Hitler just perverts a conversation beyond any hope of usefulness. Usually it is right-wing extremists who try to stop the conversation at that point.

It's pretty clear that Schwarzenegger didn't admire Hitler for killing millions of people.

On the other hand, Schwarzenegger admired Hitler for his rise to power, and for his speaking style. And Schwarzenegger wanted to be like that himself: "like Hitler in the Nuremberg stadium. And have all those people scream at you and just being total agreement whatever you say."

The edge is in the "and just being total agreement whatever you say."

That's a yellow flag. And when you look closer there are a lot more yellow flags. Is Schwarzenegger going to listen to the people, or tell the people? Is leadership getting thousands to scream and applaud, or working through state government to solve problems?

How can we make a judgment?

First: does he show up for debates, or does he show up for media spectacles? Frankly, refusing to debate Davis may be a good tactical decision, but it is completely inappropriate for democracy.

In a short campaign, and with no previous track record to judge Schwarzenegger by (except for his serial gropings), it is entirely reasonable to vote him down for his apparent lack of commitment to democratic ideals.

[12:15:34 PM]     
The recall started out as a joke, and now it's a bad joke.

To raise the level of ridiculousness, we propose the following:

First, count the number of reasonably probable gropes Mr. Schwarzenegger has copped in the last period of time. We say go back to his second film -- giving him his weight-lifting career for free, and one film where he could have learned how to behave in a civil society.

Second, give that many of the top recall candidates (based on the final vote count) a free feel-up of Schwarzenegger's wife. The gropes should be videotaped so Schwarzenegger can get a good look at the error of his ways.

If Maria stands by her man, she should be willing to go through with this.

Of course, this isn't as bad as what Schwarzenegger's victims suffered: Maria won't have to worry about getting fired if she resists or complains. But it's a start.

[Attention certain literal-minded readers: this is satire.]



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