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Monday, August 5, 2002

Judge reverses unusual abortion ruling
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Nielsen to measure TiVo usage
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Denominations, Demons and Least Common Denominators. Minimizing religious differences doesn't work. Even some first amendment scholars like Charles Haynes are beginning to understand that. From the recent Freedom Forum article:

It was bound to happen.

For nearly 11 months now, political leaders have tried to unite America with well-meaning (but glib) statements affirming all religions ? and insisting that religion has nothing to do with terrorism. And we?ve had innumerable interfaith prayer services with watered-down ?to-whom-it-may-concern? prayers.

All of these (well-intentioned) efforts paper over deep religious differences. In reality, for most Jews, Christians, Muslims and others it does matter what you believe ? it matters not only for this life, but for all eternity. And it matters how you pray (and to whom).

Ignoring religious differences doesn?t work. Now comes the inevitable backlash from people angry about "feel-good" attempts at religious unity. And it?s not a pretty sight.

At a gathering of Southern Baptist pastors in June, the Rev. Jerry Vines decided to take the gloves off. He called Islam?s prophet Muhammad "a demon-possessed pedophile." And for good measure, he declared that "Allah is not Jehovah either. Jehovah?s not going to turn you into a terrorist that?ll try to bomb people and take the lives of thousands and thousands of people."

Is this our choice? Do we have to choose between pretending that we?re all the same or demonizing the other guy?

While calling for honesty in discussion between parties with religious differences, Haynes fails to distinguish between a statement intended to "demonize the other guy" and one which actually conveys theological content to the hearers.

Newsflash -- ATTENTION Mr. Haynes: Both Islam and Christianity contain religious content related to evil spiritual activity and demonic entities. People from both groups are likely to make reference to such in their discussion.

His difficulty in discerning between a mean-spirited personal attack and a consistent application of theological content to contemporary context is neither unusual nor unexpected. Like it or not, Americans have by and larged not remained immune to cultural "to-whom-it-may-concern" theology. Probably chief among misguided suppositions is that the first commandment does not concern itself with whether one follows other gods or not.

Rather, most (like Haynes) appear to suppose any and all god's first commandment is simply: "Thou shalt always be nice." Or if not from heaven, then at least from a Platonic American Ideal.

Haynes suggests a third option between the mamby-pamby and the vitriolic sorts of interaction: one which actually hopes to treat religious groups with something approaching respect enough to allow them to be true to themselves, to show some integrity and consistency in their language and conduct. I applaud Haynes for that effort and attitude.

Personal attacks, name-calling, ridicule and similar tactics destroy the fabric of our life together as American citizens. Civil debate ? the cornerstone of a successful democracy ? enables us to engage one another in ways that promote mutual understanding.

This is the part that makes me nervous, because it is the 'reasonable' ground which caused many American Christians to utterly forsake their historical writings and roots in the first place. Those of us whose theology heralds from the Reformation Era cannot fail (even with cursory glances) to notice our forefathers were well studied and accomplished in the lost art of Polemics. In fact, polemics and rhetoric were essential to a decent education -- theological or otherwise.

Over the last thirty years, almost every American denomination has publicly disavowed it's historical writings as 'intolerant' and 'unloving' expressions of the faith. Likewise, educated persons now study pop-psychology rather than polemics, and relativism in place of rhetoric. The general goal is no longer to communicate thoughtful content, but sincere emotion.

Regardless, I think Haynes is on the right track. Here's to hoping he and all of America stop their campaign to oversensitize and insulate every person from every word that could be construed as emotionally hurtful, and rather begin to grasp that (at least some) religious people intend to communicate something more than a personal insult or attack when they make mention of evil, of the demonic. They might actually be saying something with those words more than, "... and I think you suck!"
comment [] 2:10:13 PM     


Minimizing religious differences doesn't work. Even first amendment scholars like Charles Haynes are beginning to understand that. From the recent Freedom Forum article:

It was bound to happen.

For nearly 11 months now, political leaders have tried to unite America with well-meaning (but glib) statements affirming all religions [^] and insisting that religion has nothing to do with terrorism. And we[base ']ve had innumerable interfaith prayer services with watered-down [base "]to-whom-it-may-concern[per thou] prayers.

All of these (well-intentioned) efforts paper over deep religious differences. In reality, for most Jews, Christians, Muslims and others it does matter what you believe [^] it matters not only for this life, but for all eternity. And it matters how you pray (and to whom).

Ignoring religious differences doesn[base ']t work. Now comes the inevitable backlash from people angry about [base "]feel-good[per thou] attempts at religious unity. And it[base ']s not a pretty sight.

At a gathering of Southern Baptist pastors in June, the Rev. Jerry Vines decided to take the gloves off. He called Islam[base ']s prophet Muhammad [base "]a demon-possessed pedophile.[per thou] And for good measure, he declared that [base "]Allah is not Jehovah either. Jehovah[base ']s not going to turn you into a terrorist that[base ']ll try to bomb people and take the lives of thousands and thousands of people.[per thou]

Is this our choice? Do we have to choose between pretending that we[base ']re all the same or demonizing the other guy?

While calling for honesty in discussion between parties with religious differences, Haynes fails to distinguish between a statement intended to "demonize the other guy" and one which actually conveys theological content to the hearers.

Newsflash -- ATTENTION Mr. Haynes: Both Islam and Christianity contain religious content related to evil spiritual activity and demonic entities. People from both groups are likely to make reference to such in their discussion.

His difficulty in discerning between a mean-spirited personal attack and a consistent application of theological content to contemporary context is neither unusual nor unexpected. Like it or not, Americans have by and larged not remained immune to cultural "to-whom-it-may-concern" theology. Probably chief among misguided suppositions is that the first commandment does not concern itself with whether one follows other gods or not.

Rather, most (like Haynes) appear to suppose any and all god's first commandment is simply: "Thou shalt always be nice." Or if not from heaven, then at least from a Platonic American Ideal.

Haynes suggests a third option between the mamby-pamby and the vitriolic sorts of interaction: one which actually hopes to treat religious groups with something approaching respect enough to allow them to be true to themselves, to show some integrity and consistency in their language and conduct. I applaud Haynes for that effort and attitude.

Personal attacks, name-calling, ridicule and similar tactics destroy the fabric of our life together as American citizens. Civil debate [^] the cornerstone of a successful democracy [^] enables us to engage one another in ways that promote mutual understanding.

This is the part that makes me nervous, because it is the 'reasonable' ground which caused many American Christians to utterly forsake their historical writings and roots in the first place. Those of us whose theology heralds from the Reformation Era cannot fail (even with cursory glances) to notice our forefathers were well studied and accomplished in the lost art of Polemics. In fact, polemics and rhetoric were essential to a decent education -- theological or otherwise.

Over the last thirty years, almost every American denomination has publicly disavowed it's historical writings as 'intolerant' and 'unloving' expressions of the faith. Likewise, educated persons now study pop-psychology rather than polemics, and relativism in place of rhetoric. The general goal is no longer to communicate thoughtful content, but sincere emotion.

Regardless, I think Haynes is on the right track. Here's to hoping he and all of America stop their campaign to oversensitize and insulate every person from every word that could be construed as emotionally hurtful, and rather begin to grasp that (at least some) religious people intend to communicate something more than a personal insult or attack when they make mention of evil, of the demonic. They might actually be saying something with those words other than, "... and I think you suck!"
comment [] 2:10:12 PM     


Bummer. Three days now and my Starband rural satellite broadband service has been offline.

I pride myself in being a fairly competent geek, multilingual in my discipline (Mac and PeeCee). When I heard word of Starband's legal problems and subsequent filing for bankruptcy, I got a bit nervous. Then Starband said they got it all worked out, both with Echostar (DISH Network partner providers) and in the bankruptcy courts.

So anyhow, I get an email saying there's an updated Starband client software available for download. My rule of thumb is to wait five days before downloading and installing, in hopes that other less prudent customers might have ruined their systems by upgrading immediately and in the meanwhile, given the company time to produce an improved patch. Five days was not enough.

Started getting buggy when I first updated. Now, nothing but borrowed 28k slowband dialup through the only local call ISP available in my area.

At the very least, my GeekEgo was spared today when the installer came by to check things out. After spending four hours doing everything I had been doing for the last three days (including spending a fair amount of time talking to Starband tech support), he concluded as I had -- the modem has gone bad.

But he's got the certification which makes his diagnosis believable and authoritative. Fortunately for me, my modem has one month left under warranty. Better yet, the new modem (which should arrive by Thursday at the latest) ought to have an additional 90 days from the day I receive it. Even more fortunately for me, the installer was gracious and only charged me $75 dollars to sit here almost 5 hours total and do everything I had done over the last several days (uninstalling this, reinstalling that, unstalling again and revertion to a previous version, etc. etc.).

So, back to slowband for me -- at least for a few days. Talk about yer headaches... :-D
comment [] 2:10:10 PM     


Guardian Unlimited | Special reports | Bush held up plan to hit Bin Laden
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"advertisement tattooed on your body "
comment [] 2:09:50 PM     

"MacOS X for $82,402.02 "
comment [] 2:09:49 PM     

Reclaiming the Commons
comment [] 2:09:48 PM     

"Bush's Conspiracy to Riot"
comment [] 2:09:43 PM     

"The first article takes a close look at the company's operations in San Diego:"
comment [] 2:09:42 PM     

TIME.com: Nation -- The Secret History
comment [] 2:09:42 PM     

TIME Magazine: Before Sept. 11 ÷ The Secret History
comment [] 2:09:42 PM     

"Grandma Knapp's '37 Road Trip"
comment [] 2:09:41 PM     

Guardian Unlimited Observer | Special reports | Bush ready to declare war
comment [] 2:09:40 PM     

"METACRITIC: 200 Worst-rated Films"
comment [] 2:09:40 PM     

"not"
comment [] 2:09:40 PM     

Ha'aretz - Article
comment [] 2:09:39 PM     

"BlogStreet"
comment [] 2:09:39 PM     

"2" GI Joe Rifle Confiscated in Airport Security Crackdown"
comment [] 2:09:39 PM     

"visionary"
comment [] 2:09:38 PM     

"Schizoid"
comment [] 2:09:37 PM     

"push them to do something with that cash"
comment [] 2:09:37 PM     

Weapons, laptops missing
comment [] 2:09:23 PM     

U.S. loans $1.5 billion to Uruguay
comment [] 2:09:23 PM     

Vatican excommunicates 7 women
comment [] 2:09:22 PM     

NeoNapster's NeoAudio Rips Off CDex
comment [] 1:11:22 PM     

Security stalls access to capitols
comment [] 1:10:57 PM     

Israel issues 'total ban'
comment [] 1:10:56 PM     

10,000 Iraqis protest
comment [] 1:10:55 PM     

Service sector growth slows further in July
comment [] 1:10:54 PM     

Surgeons will try to separate conjoined twins
comment [] 1:10:53 PM     

HoustonChronicle.com - Spam, spam, spam: Hard to escape the onslaught
comment [] 12:15:00 PM     

TIME.com: The Secret History
comment [] 12:14:59 PM     

"Bush held up plan to hit Bin Laden"
comment [] 12:14:59 PM     

Teen Arrested for Lighting Shoe (washingtonpost.com)
comment [] 12:14:58 PM     

"Whitehall Dossier Says Saddam Plans Biological Weapons For Palestinians"
comment [] 12:14:58 PM     

Check Out This Library (washingtonpost.com)
comment [] 12:14:57 PM     

"Andy L's Home Page (Version Oh-One)"
comment [] 12:14:57 PM     

"And you thought the normal price for Jaguar was expensive!"
comment [] 12:14:57 PM     

"Python list.sort() now stable and faster "
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Supreme Discomfort (washingtonpost.com)
comment [] 12:14:56 PM     

"Bush's Shame"
comment [] 12:14:55 PM     

"No Time for Rhetoric! "
comment [] 12:14:55 PM     

"A DIFFERENT FINANCE FOR A DIFFERENT WORLD "
comment [] 12:14:55 PM     

"The Dubious Distinction of Being Shelley"
comment [] 12:14:54 PM     

"Hamas vows to carry out more armed attacks of revenge..."
comment [] 12:14:54 PM     

"top Jonathon in Google"
comment [] 12:14:53 PM     

"Law Student Challenges Digital-Copyright Act"
comment [] 12:14:53 PM     

Talk To a European Patent Examiner
comment [] 12:14:41 PM     

MS to Implement Some DoJ Settlement Terms Preemptively
comment [] 12:14:40 PM     

Pop-Up Ads Begin To Face Serious Opposition
comment [] 12:14:40 PM     

What is Holding SAP-DB Back?
comment [] 12:14:40 PM     

Governmental ID System in Japan
comment [] 12:14:40 PM     

See 4-D Space With 3-D Glasses
comment [] 12:14:40 PM     

WiFi antennae are the nerd's bong
comment [] 12:14:38 PM     

Mac tattoo roundup
comment [] 12:14:38 PM     

Simpsons cocktail schwag
comment [] 12:14:37 PM     

Saddam seeks to placate Kurds
comment [] 12:14:10 PM     

Stocks lower
comment [] 12:14:10 PM     

Kidnapped girls recall ordeal
comment [] 12:14:10 PM     

More cases of West Nile virus likely
comment [] 12:14:09 PM     

Attack on Pakistani Christian school leaves 6 dead
comment [] 12:14:09 PM     

Bonds closing in on 600 home runs
comment [] 1:09:47 AM     

Bitboys Silicon Sighted
comment [] 1:09:03 AM     

5 shot dead at Dallas home
comment [] 12:09:39 AM     

Signs suggest stocks could drop further
comment [] 12:09:38 AM     

Ford, GM plan to spiff up SUV interiors
comment [] 12:09:38 AM     

Teen arrested for lighting shoe in plane
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