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Tuesday, December 02, 2003

Excellent post here - Need to spend a more time listening to these guys.  There are implications here that are "emerging" in a whole range of topics too numerous to list.  Concept here is overwhelming me.  Need to wallow in it some more - when I've got some time to wallow.

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Hierarchies, webs and emergence. Last week Dave Sifry and I met up with Dave Winer and Steve Gillmor at Technorati to share ideas. We talked about the public resource that Dave W created in weblogs.com, about Technorati, and about Dave's new idea to help people categorize blog postings and the things they link to.
Dave W said: I feel we're at a turning point in the weblog world, either we're going to be like every other hierarchy that's ever been, with secret deals, lots of impediments to progress, eventual stagnation; or we're going to overcome that.

Dave thinks in hierarchies; whether this is because he invented outlining, or why he invented outlining I'm not sure. Along the way he added links into the picture, so his hierarchies can link to other nodes, or other hierarchies to get as complex as you like.

The conventional wisdom is that links beat out hierarchies - Google's link-centric approach beat out Yahoo's hierarchy-centric approach (the HO in Yahoo stood for Hierarchically Oriented).

However, another way of looking at it is top-down versus bottom-up - central design versus emergence.

Dave W wants to build a bottom-up emergent taxonomy, using open debate and open standards.

Steve Gillmor is saying something similar about how we can grow new things.

I have a couple of ideas that I need to write up as spec proposals to try to start such discussions - one about 'vote links', one a new bit of metadata for feeds saying whether they are complete or not. [Epeus' epigone]


7:13:54 PM    

I'll be the judge of this - but the praise Jim Moore heaps on the second of the two is almost overwhelming.  It makes me feel technologically inadequate that I don't have the programming capability to get this blog to do what I really want.  As to writing things that others find interesting - we'll see.

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Jim Moore finds two amazing weblogs.

[Andrew Grumet's Weblog]
7:05:19 PM    

Reference Links - Blogging and Social Software. I began updating a list of references on Blogging and Social Networks last week. As I prepared to post this I begin to realize what I've left out. It started as a list supporting "Jazz in the Blogosphere". It was... [Unbound Spiral]
6:34:49 PM    

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