Friday, June 20, 2003


Re: Ari On "Revisionist Historians"

Dear Friends:

Ari Fleischer spells out Bush's attack on "revisionist historians." (With
apologies to the several historians among our readership.)

Twice in the past two days, Bush has attacked those who say Iraq did not
have WMD's as "revisionist historians." What exactly does he mean? In his
press briefing, Ari Fleischer went into great detail. Bush "describes as
revisionist history those who now seem to cast doubt on the accuracy of the
intelligence information that stated that Saddam Hussein had weapons of
mass destruction prior to the war."

So why hasn't Bush found any of these WMD's? Bush is certain Saddam had the
weapons, but Ari says they were destroyed or hidden. How much longer will
this charade go on?
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Press Briefing with Ari Fleischer
The James S. Brady Briefing Room
June 17, 2003

MR. FLEISCHER: Good afternoon. I have no opening statement for you, so I am
at your disposal. Helen -- a fine place to start.

Q Can you tell us more of what the President means by revisionist
historians? And what is the genesis of that, and on what does he base it?

MR. FLEISCHER: Yesterday, in the President's remarks, he referred to -- he
referred it to revisionist historians who are seeming to make the case that
Saddam Hussein likely did not have, or did not have, weapons of mass
destruction prior to the war. And the President bases that on some of the
statements that he has heard where people are expressing doubt about
whether or not the intelligence that was provided to the administration, as
well as to Congress for many years was accurate intelligence information.

The President has every reason to know that it was, indeed, accurate, just
as previous administrations have said so, just as he believes so, and
therefore, he said so. And so he looks at it and describes as revisionist
history those who now seem to cast doubt on the accuracy of the
intelligence information that stated that Saddam Hussein had weapons of
mass destruction prior to the war.

Q Is he certain they have them now and that you will find them? And I have
one more follow-up.

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, the President has repeatedly expressed his confidence
that as a result of the actions that we have put in place with the
Department of Defense undertaking the search, with the increased number of
personnel DOD has now to carry out its mission, as well as the interviews
that are being done and will be done with mid-level Iraqi officials,
including scientists, the review of the paperwork that we're finding, as
well as the expertise of David Kay who is not helping, that we will,
indeed, find the weapons of mass destruction.

Q And my other question is, in view of some of the faulty intelligence --
assuming it was faulty -- is there any move now to consolidate all the
intelligence agencies, or at least to have them work together under one
head?

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, that's the case now. The DCI, the Director of Central
Intelligence, does head all the various agencies. So when you're talking
about the National Security Agency, the Defense Intelligence Agency, they
all do report to the DCI through their various channels.

Q Just to pin this down, you're saying for the record that the President
believes that prior to the war Saddam Hussein did have weapons of mass
destruction, in the period immediately leading up to this most recent war?

MR. FLEISCHER: Yes. I think there's nothing new here, nothing has changed.
You've heard the President say it many, many times -- yes, that's what the
President said then, it's what he believes now, of course.

Q Then what is the scenario? Because if there was an imminent threat to the
American people that justified the war and no weapons program, as such, has
been discovered, then what happened? Were weapons destroyed while U.N.
inspectors were there, is that what the President believes? Were they
destroyed at another point? And as Helen pointed out earlier, they couldn't
have been operational if they weren't really poised to be used, thankfully,
against U.S. and other coalition forces. I mean, at the end of the day,
isn't it more likely that there is a history lesson here of a weapons
program that may have existed, rather than actual weapons that are found?

MR. FLEISCHER: No, it's just as the President described it, based on the
judgment and the information that he has received. And the reason I think
you're seeing it play out in the manner it is, is exactly because of the
lengths that Saddam Hussein and the Iraqi officials went to hide the
weapons of mass destruction that they had.

After all, it was the United Nations, when they left Iraq, when they were
thrown out of Iraq in 1998, that concluded and told the world that Iraq had
failed to account for the thousands of liters of botulin, of VX, of sarin
gas. It was the United Nations who put it on the record and reported they
had it.

Now, of course, we had information that also lent credence to that
conclusion. To suggest that Saddam Hussein threw out the inspectors and,
therefore, used the fact that the inspectors were gone to destroy his
weapons, is fanciful. It's a fit of imagination.

So the fact is he did design a system that was intended to conceal it from
the inspectors. After all, even in the early to mid '90s, when we did find
the proof of the weapons of mass destruction, it was only after defectors
told us about it. The inspectors were in the country, and they were unable
to find it because of the great lengths the Saddam Hussein regime had gone
to perfect their ability to hide and to conceal.

And we still are in an environment where whatever they hid, and whatever
they concealed could remain hidden and concealed. In addition, as the
President has said publicly --

Q But do you know what imminent means, and --

MR. FLEISCHER: In addition -- imminent is my next sentence. I was in the
middle of it. (Laughter.) In addition to the fact, the President said
earlier, that they may have destroyed some of it.

Q I want to follow up on a different topic, and that's fundraising tonight.
The President may raise $200 million just in this primary season when he
doesn't face a challenger, and the Democrats are obviously knocking
themselves out to try to emerge. What's he going to do with the money?

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, the President is preparing for his reelection. And
part of the preparation is, of course, to raise money from Republicans and
others who support his candidacy across the country. Next year is an
election year and the President is preparing for it.

Q But, specifically, what's he going to do with the money in the primary
season? Does he see this as a strategic advantage to try to undercut the
Democratic nominee while that nominee is cash-poor, et cetera?

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, every day, there are nine Democratic candidates who
are running against the President, saying negative things about the
President. And part of the President's efforts next year will be to rebut
the statements that will increasingly be made about the President, all from
a negative point of view, and to make sure that he has the resource to be
able to rebut some of these arguments, and to be able to make arguments of
his own.

Q Could we see, even this summer, ads promoting his own accomplishments?

MR. FLEISCHER: It's much to early for the White House to focus on that
aspect of it yet.

Q Is that a "no"?

MR. FLEISCHER: It's much to early.

Q But that's not a "no"?

MR. FLEISCHER: Tom.

Q For two days in a row --

MR. FLEISCHER: It's still too early.

Q For two days in a row the President has now talked about the economy and
his economic package, but he hasn't mentioned extending the child credit to
lower-income families. Is this still an important part of his program, and
what is he going to do to move this through the conference committee?

MR. FLEISCHER: It is important. The President has urged the Congress to
very quickly reconcile the differences between the House-passed version and
the Senate-passed version. It's important to do so. The President is
prepared to sign that into law. He wants to sign it into law. And he calls
on both parties, House and Senate, to work together quickly to resolve
their differences. He does believe that low-income families should get a
child credit.

Q Is there a reason why he hasn't been mentioning this in the last couple
speeches?

MR. FLEISCHER: I think there are any number of issues that are on the
economic agenda that the President can mention at any given time. He
believes in it. He didn't talk today, for example, about extending the
death tax permanently, which is something that he also believes in. There
are a host of economic issues that he addresses and he talks about them
from time to time.

Q In his comments in Annandale, he seemed to be a little more pessimistic
about the economy than you seemed to be this morning from this podium. He
was talking about it being still kind of shaky. Is there -- is the
President -- is he viewing the economic data that's come in and the stock
market increase in the same way --

MR. FLEISCHER: My word was "mixed;" his word was "shaky." It seems to me
that you can put the two together and have the same thing. So I think we're
saying the same thing.

Q By the same token, is he still encouraged by this huge stock market rally
we've had since March?

MR. FLEISCHER: It's the exact answers I gave you this morning about that
topic.

Q One on fundraising, one on Iraq. On Iraq, the President said Saddam
Hussein has weapons of mass destruction. You're telling us he is certain
the intelligence on which he based that statement is accurate. How can he
say it's accurate when the search hasn't turned anything up and isn't
finished?

MR. FLEISCHER: Because the President is patient, and he understands the
American people are patient, as well, in the face --

Q How does he know it's accurate when the search isn't over and it hasn't
found any weapons? How can he say the intelligence he got that Saddam
Hussein was in possession of weapons of mass destruction, that that
intelligence was accurate and reliable when the search isn't done?

MR. FLEISCHER: Because the very nature of intelligence -- if the only
reason you came to conclusions was because somebody found something, then
you wouldn't need any intelligence, you would just wait for events to take
place. The intelligence is exactly what allows you to make judgments about
future events that are not yet known because you haven't found them. That's
the nature of intelligence.

Q But isn't the discovery of actual weaponry what demonstrates the accuracy
of intelligence -- that he was in possession of actual weaponry?

MR. FLEISCHER: And the President is confident in the accuracy of that
intelligence.

Q How?

MR. FLEISCHER: Because based on the history of Iraq, based on Saddam
Hussein's previous possession of weapons of mass destruction which were
known, based on the fact that I just indicated -- the United Nations,
themselves, concluded that Saddam Hussein had failed to account for the
thousands of liters of biological and chemical weapons that he possessed.

The only way to lend credence to what you're saying is that when the United
Nations concluded in 1998 that Saddam Hussein did, indeed, have these
weapons, that he had failed to account for them, is that Saddam Hussein
threw out the inspectors and destroyed his weapons of mass destruction and
lost the receipt. How come Saddam Hussein didn't prove to the world that he
had destroyed them if, when, indeed, he had them, yet he was not able to
show the inspectors who were just in Iraq that he did, indeed, destroy
them. That's a fanciful interpretation. That's what the President judges as
revisionist.

Q That's not evidence, that's an argument. And you said the President is --
knows that the intelligence he got was -- not that he's confident, not that
he has faith, but that he knows that that intelligence is accurate.


MR. FLEISCHER: The President has every reason to believe it's accurate.


Q Based on that argument. On the fundraising thing, the President I guess
is expected to raise upwards of $200 million. That's a staggering figure.
What should ordinary Americans in this tough economy, mixed, shaky economy,
make of that enormous figure?


MR. FLEISCHER: Well, one, I caution everybody about jumping to conclusions
about how much money ultimately can or will be raised. I think we've had
this conversation before about how people are putting that number out
there, and I think that's based on the fact that the campaign laws doubled
the funding and that people are looking at what he raised in the last
cycle. That's not necessarily indicative of how it will be.

Whatever the case is for the ultimate number, the President will follow the
laws of the land, he will follow the campaign finance laws, and he will ask
the American people of all parties to support him. The American people will
be the ones who decide how much money the President raises by the amount of
support they decide to give him.

Q Certainly, but I'm asking about the system and what should people make of
our political system that this incumbent President is going to raise this
very large amount of money?

MR. FLEISCHER: I think it's probably a good indication that the President
has a strong amount of support throughout the country. I think it's also an
indication that the American people are fortunate not to live in a system
where they are compelled to give money from their taxes to support
candidates or causes they did not believe in. That would be taxpayer
financed campaigns, and I think the American people like the fact that
candidates have to seek their support, ask for their support, and are not
entitled to take taxpayer money to use for their own reelections when the
taxpayers did not support the cause or the candidate in question. That's
our American system. It's a newly-reformed system based on the campaign
finance laws that President Bush signed into law.

Q What will the President base his campaign on? Why does he deserve
reelection?

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, again, the President is focused right now on
governing. He is doing what needs to be done to prepare for the election
year. The President's focus on governing is exactly as he laid out in the
State of the Union message, which is on economic security and on national
security.

Q Two questions, please. With all the questions being asked by the
intelligence agencies of the United States, as the Senate is preparing to
hold hearings this week presided by Pat Roberts, is the President in favor
of there being open hearings so people can answer some of the questions
that Terry was asking?

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, certainly, the Congress has at its discretion as it
goes through its hearing process, decisions about open and closed.
Currently, if there's a discussion of classified information, that will be
done in a closed session. If it's a discussion of things that are not
classified, it can be done in open session. The President has welcomed
these hearings. After all, this is information that has been shared with
the Congress, going back now some -- one decade in both the open and closed
format before.

Q My second question, if you would be so kind. Yesterday, the authorities
announced the detainment of 14 people involved with the illegal aliens who
died in Victoria, Texas last month. Fourteen people have been charged, I
think 56 counts. Has the President been following this thing? I know he's
been pretty busy with this international agenda. Is this a subject that
he's following?

MR. FLEISCHER: This is something that's very close to the President's
heart. And this is where I think you've heard the President, as a Texan,
someone who has seen some of the tragedies that have taken place on our
borders, reflect on, because the President looks at this, he looks at it as
a matter of values, of, as he puts it, a woman, a mother, who wants to feed
a child and come to America for more opportunity. And we need to find a way
to welcome people, to have opportunity in the United States. And, as he
puts it, when a mother wants to feed a child, she's going to come, she's
going to try to come into the United States and give her child a better
life.

And that's why the President views the importance of improving relations
with our allies, and our friends down in Central America and Latin America.
That's such an important issue. This is why he was working so hard prior to
September 11th to have a reform of our immigration laws. And it is a very
sensitive and, I think, matter of compassion with the President.

Q Ari, a couple of weeks ago, you said from the podium the President really
wasn't concerned about his retractors for the Oval Office. Why now are you
concerned? And could you explain -- you didn't answer Steve's question as
to why the President deserves people punching a chad or pulling down a
lever for him this time?

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, I indicated that the President right now is focused on
governing. And what the President is focused on when it comes to governing
is on providing economic security and national security for the American
people. There will come a time, but it has not come yet, for the President
to engage more in political activity. This is not an election year, but
this is the period of time in which incoming Presidents have, historically,
prepared for their election years.

Q But what's changed? I mean, just a couple of weeks ago, you were not
worried at all about the Democrats and what they were saying. And now, you
know, you're saying that they have all these negative words about the
President, he's going to rebut it next year.

MR. FLEISCHER: It's just perfectly consistent. What I've indicated is
you've asked me many times from this podium to respond to this barb or that
barb that the Democrats like to throw at him, and I typically don't have to
engage in that because the President is not. The President is focused on
governing.

But, as I just indicated, there is an election year coming up next year and
the President is going to prepare for it. So there are two tracks to it,
and the President is engaged on this track.

Q I want to try once more on the approach Terry was trying to get at. Let
me ask you first -- and it may have been too close to when you came out
here -- but right before you came out the American Medical Association
endorsed cloning for research purposes. Anything you want to say on that?

MR. FLEISCHER: I have not seen their specific report on it. And as you
know, the President's positions on this are well- known. The President is
opposed to human cloning in all its forms. And I have not seen any of the
nuances in what the AMA has seen or even the headline on what they have
said.

Q Back on the intelligence in Iraq. After September 11th, there was a great
debate in this country about the failure of the intelligence agencies to
connect certain dots, because of failures to communicate between agencies,
and the like. Is there not a sliver of doubt anywhere in this
administration that it is possible that the reverse took place in this
case, that because of the evidence of known weapons programs in Iraq that
everyone agrees to in the 1990s, anthrax and the like, that when they saw
things happening later, that people connected dots that necessarily maybe
should not have been connected, based on suspicions, not facts?

MR. FLEISCHER: I think based on what was known and shown and proved by
Iraq's possession of weapons of mass destruction which they did, indeed,
use, based on what was known about Saddam Hussein's pursuit of these
weapons, and based on the findings of the United Nations inspectors, based
on the findings of the intelligence community throughout the '90s and into
the early part of this President's administration, leading right up to the
war, the conclusions were reached because they were the conclusions based
on the best intelligence. And the President is confident in them. The
Congress was confident in them.

I would suggest to you, go back and read any number of speeches given by
members of Congress, Democrat and Republican alike, in 1998, when the
Congress passed -- and wisely passed -- the regime change act for Iraq, and
you'll find floor speech after floor speech that talks about Iraq's
possession of weapons of mass destruction. Members of Congress said it with
certainty then; the previous administration said it with certainty then.
And unless somebody thinks, again, that Saddam Hussein threw out the
weapons inspectors and after he threw out the weapons inspectors he got rid
of his weapons of mass destruction and didn't tell anybody, and had no
proof that he got rid of his weapons of mass destruction -- that's why the
intelligence community continues to believe as strongly as it has and does
that Saddam Hussein did, indeed, have weapons of mass destruction leading
up to the war.

Q But you don't rule out that some of it, some of what the intelligence
community says might not be exactly right? We go through this every time
the threat level goes from yellow to orange, that there is stuff out there
--

MR. FLEISCHER: No, but there's a fundamental conclusion that has been
reached and that doesn't change.

Q Ari, a quick two-part question. You said there will come a time when the
President engages in political activities. How will we know when that
happens? (Laughter.)

MR. FLEISCHER: You're not trying to lead me somewhere with that type of
question, are you?

Q Never, Ari.

MR. FLEISCHER: Very judicious of you.

Q Will you be landing somewhere? (Laughter.)

MR. FLEISCHER: I hope you enjoyed it. (Laughter.) Your network surely did.

You know, there will come a time when the President will, as events get
closer to an election, to Election Day, the President will engage in more
overt campaigning. That time is not here. I think the American people
typically think campaigns go on too long, and the President tends to agree
with that. Nevertheless, the President will prepare for the campaign --
after all, next year does end in an even number.

Q And also in the last, 2000 and coming up, the President will accept
federal funds in the general election.

MR. FLEISCHER: Correct.

Q Is there any dash of hypocrisy in that he doesn't contribute to that fund
when he files his tax returns?

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, interestingly, we talked before about
taxpayer-financed elections, and while for the congressional races, Senate
races and House races, and for overwhelming majority of the funds that go
to presidential races is voluntary, there is that check on the tax reforms.
And the best I remember this from IRS data is something like only 12
percent, or down to 8 percent of the American people check that box. So I
think the President is in pretty good company with a number of American
people who do not check that box.

Q Why would he take the money, then?

MR. FLEISCHER: As you know, he's not taking the money for the primary
campaign; he will take it for the general.

Q Does he prefer a privately-financed system altogether?

MR. FLEISCHER: I think he signed into law the system that he supports.

Q The amount of money the President is trying to raise, as everyone has
noted, is an enormous amount of money. You seem to be suggesting that the
President views this as an arsenal that he can dip into in order to fight
back against Democratic claims that he's doing one thing or another. Is
that sort of the way you see it?

MR. FLEISCHER: I think there is a certain obviousness in our political
system, in our democracy, that when candidates run for office they raise
money. And the President will begin raising money tonight to help him
prepare for a year that ends in an even number.

Q But he's going to extraordinary lengths. I mean --

MR. FLEISCHER: Not really. He's holding fundraisers.

Q Right. But he's going to raise more money than anyone has ever raised,
twice what he raised last time, which itself was a record. I mean, doesn't
--

MR. FLEISCHER: I don't think that's an indication of the lengths to which
the President is going. I think it's an indication about the lengths of --
the breadth of support that he has from the American people. After all, an
incumbent, or even a challenger cannot raise money if the person does not
have the support from the public. And the President has broad support from
the public; otherwise he would not be successful in this endeavor.

Q Right. But we were talking more about the amount of money he's going to
raise. And even when he was a challenger he raised a huge amount of money.
I mean, I'm just trying to get a sense from you of why the President thinks
it's necessary to raise as much as he hopes to raise.

MR. FLEISCHER: Again, there are nine Democrats who spend all of their time
saying negative things about the President. And that means there is a large
resonation, a large reinforcement of a negative message that's coming at
the President. The President is a competitor and he will prepare for what
he needs to do in a reelection.

Q Okay. One other thing, if I may, on a different topic. David Kay has been
appointed special advisor to Tenet, as you've noted here. There was one s
tory that suggested that the White House had sort of dumped the whole
responsibility for finding weapons of mass destruction on to the CIA and
put it in charge of the effort to find weapons in Iraq.

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, it's the CIA and the DOD doing it together. If you can
imagine a country as large as Iraq -- which, as you know, is the size of
California -- it requires a tremendous number of people to help move with
the logistics, to get people into place, to carry out their work. Iraq
remains a place with great danger in many places, and so there has to be
security provided for some of the experts to travel around. So it's a
combination, it's a combined effort of the CIA and the DOD.

Q And who is in charge of that effort?

MR. FLEISCHER: It's a combined effort. So it's the two of them. I think
when it comes to intelligence information, the CIA is the keeper of the
intelligence information. When it comes to much of the logistics and to the
assistance and to the moving around, DOD, of course, can help provide that.


Q Ari, when you said earlier that Saddam must have had weapons of mass
destruction because he had them and we don't have receipts for their
destruction, and so forth, are you indicating that we went to war basically
on an inference that he had to have them, or was there specific, credible
evidence --

MR. FLEISCHER: This was asked before. It is based on intelligence
information that led to the conclusion of this administration, the previous
administration and many on the Hill that Saddam Hussein did indeed have
weapons of mass destruction, of course.

Q So there was enough specific, credible information of the existence of
weapons, not any inference, but of the actual existence of weapons, there
was enough of that to lead us to go to war?

MR. FLEISCHER: Let me give you an example --

Q Can you answer that question before you --

MR. FLEISCHER: -- Saddam having weapons of mass destruction, Saddam
Hussein's militaristic history in which he had used weapons of mass
destruction against others --

Q I'm not asking about history. I'm specifically not asking about history.
I'm asking about what we saw on the ground just before the war, did we know
that those weapons were there.

MR. FLEISCHER: You cannot separate the two. You cannot separate history --

Q So you're saying that we did not have enough of that.

MR. FLEISCHER: I'm saying it's a combination; that the decision to go to
war was based on the knowledge that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass
destruction, and Saddam Hussein had a history of using weapons of mass
destruction, that he had a militaristic history; and that we successfully
carried out a war, and did so in a way that Saddam Hussein was not able to
use his weapons of mass destruction, that he may have had some of it
destroyed, that he had it hidden, as part of a whole apparatus of
concealment that he mastered over the years as he dealt with United Nations
inspectors.

Q On the credible evidence that we did know about, whatever amount of that
there was, I assume that our intelligence capabilities before the war are
the same as they were -- as they are now. So how it is possible that we
were able to discern those weapons before the war, but we can't when we
have 200,000 troops on the ground?

MR. FLEISCHER: Let me give you a good example. These are the biological
trucks that Secretary Powell spoke of at the United Nations. When Secretary
Powell spoke about those, he couldn't tell anybody exactly where they were,
but we had intelligence information that he had them. Now, the inability to
say exactly where they are does not disprove the fact that he has them. And
of course, as time went along, Secretary Powell was proven exactly right
and the intelligence community was proven exactly right about what they
said on these trucks.

The President has said before that he is patient, the American people are
patient and he is confident that in time we will find this.

Q Several questions on fundraising. First of all, why is it that the
President checks the "no" box? Does he have a philosophical rejection, or
what's his reason for doing that?

MR. FLEISCHER: No, I think the President views campaign funding as a
voluntary matter, as the American people do, where people want to support
the candidate of their choice. We have on the presidential level a somewhat
mixed system where there is some level of taxpayer support. And the
President, as you know, in the primary is not going to accept any taxpayer
support, he will raise funds privately -- which means he will get support
as the American people see fit to give it.

Q But why does he -- why does he check the "no" box?

MR. FLEISCHER: Because I think the President's approach is that from him,
personally, that he believes in personally financing the causes in which he
believes.

Q But he does accept public funding for the general election.

MR. FLEISCHER: That's correct.

Q Yet he is not contributing to it by checking that box. Isn't there a
disconnect?

MR. FLEISCHER: That's the way our system works. If he contributed to it,
he'd have three more dollars.

Q But you won't answer the question why --


MR. FLEISCHER: I think I just did.

Q The President has a fairly brisk fundraising schedule over the next few
weeks. Does he want to get all of this, or most of this done before the
first of the year? Is that the timetable that he set forth on fundraising?

MR. FLEISCHER: No, I think just as always in our system, the President will
follow the law and raise funds over a period of time, as the campaign
determines, and that will continue throughout this year and into next year.

Q And into next year?

MR. FLEISCHER: Certainly.

Q One last question. David was asking you about when he might start TV
advertising, your answer was to the effect that he intends next year to
rebuff the Democratic arguments against him. Does that imply that he won't
start advertising --

MR. FLEISCHER: My answer was that it's too soon to say, it's too soon to
indicate. David very cleverly tried to pin me down to a more specific
timetable, and I just indicated it's too soon to say.

Q Well, your words were, though, he intends next year to rebut those
arguments. Does that indicate that you won't begin to put up TV spots this
year?

MR. FLEISCHER: I'm saying it's too soon for us to even begin any discussion
about when any type of paid media campaign may or may not begin.

Q Ari, one of the great personal and political strengths that the
President's polls show is that he's trusted by the American people. Is he
concerned that the longer this weapons of mass destruction issue goes on
that it's going to erode that trust?

MR. FLEISCHER: No, I think the American people have faith and confidence in
the statements that the President made. And the American people, after all,
have heard these very same statements for some 10 years now from elected
officials, from members of Congress, from the previous administration. So I
think, again, this is not new to the American people and the American
people understand that Saddam Hussein had a very, very detailed program of
concealment that he mastered in order to hide his weapons of mass
destruction from the inspectors.

And again I remind you that in the early to mid-'90s, were it not for the
defectors, the United Nations inspectors never would have even known about
the weapons of mass destruction that Saddam Hussein did, indeed, possess
and was proved to have possessed at that time. It's the nature of
concealment, and Saddam Hussein was a master of it.

Q Isn't there a point, though, where the longer this goes on, the more
erosion there might be?

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, again, you'll be able to make those judgments over
time.

Q If I could follow up on Jim's question. I think the article that he was
citing also suggested that Director Tenet is a potential fall guy if it
turns out that there -- you know, if WMD doesn't pop up. Can you tell us
about that? Is that, in fact, the case? Is the Director of the CIA --

MR. FLEISCHER: Again, the President has every confidence that the
intelligence that he received was accurate intelligence and that weapons of
mass destruction will, indeed, be found. The President has full faith in
Director Tenet. And the President is focused on pursuing the reconstruction
of Iraq. We have the team that's on the ground now that is working on the
finding of the weapons of mass destruction.

Q Is there one person that is responsible for rounding up the WMD? This
article did suggest that the onus has put on at least CIA at this point.

MR. FLEISCHER: It's a joint effort, just as I said.

Q One more unrelated follow-up to Tom -- thank you very much. (Laughter.)

MR. FLEISCHER: Wait a minute, I didn't answer you yet.

Q The President said he's behind the tax credit, there's no -- for
low-income folks, there's no question about that. However, it's been a few
weeks since that position was first announced from this podium. Is it
getting closer to a time where the President may have to suggest to members
of his own party that this is a good thing --

MR. FLEISCHER: The House of Representatives just took its action last week,
and now the conference between the House and the Senate will begin. This is
the pace the Congress follows. But the President's message to the Congress
is unequivocal. The President wants to sign the child credit into law. He
thinks it's the appropriate thing to do for low-income families. He wants
the House and the Senate to quickly reconcile their differences so that it
can, indeed, be signed into law.

Q Ari, two questions. First, can you comment on reports that Condi Rice
will be going to the Middle East?

MR. FLEISCHER: I'm not going to engage a speculation about any potential
travel. If we have travel from the National Security Advisor, we'll keep
you posted, but I'm not going to speculate.

Q Secondly, on fundraising. Governor Dean has said that it's a threat to
democracy for any one presidential candidate to have two or three times
more money to get his or her message out than any other candidate.
Regardless of how much money the President plans to raise, does he see any
merit whatsoever in that argument?

MR. FLEISCHER: Well again, I think the amount of money that candidates
raise in our democracy is a reflection of the amount of support they have
around the country. So the President is proud to have the support of the
American people, and the American people will ultimately be the ones who
decide how much funding goes to any Democrat or any Republican.

Q How can that really be reflective of his support, though, considering
he's getting money from people who can afford to go to dinner for $2,000? I
mean, most Americans cannot afford that. So how can that really be
reflective of his support from middle America?

MR. FLEISCHER: The rules are equal. The rules are the same for both
parties, for the Democrats and the Republicans. Both parties compete
knowing that. They, of course, raise money from all groups of Americans,
including many low-dollar donors. And, again, the American people decide
how much support to give either candidate in either party.

Q It's also known, Ari, that the labor union members overwhelmingly support
Democrats, or have in previous elections. So how can that really, you know
-- that doesn't really support your argument.

MR. FLEISCHER: I'm not sure of your point, Heidi.

Q I mean, Gore was endorsed by most of the labor -- you know, major labor
unions.

MR. FLEISCHER: Right. So the American people have spoken because one
segment of our society has spoken? I stand by what I've said about the
American people, broadly.

Q Ari, the federal appeals court ruling on detainees, allowing the
administration to continue not to publicly identify these detainees -- why
was it necessary not to identify these folks who were rounded up after
September 11th?

MR. FLEISCHER: This is a matter the Department of Justice works on in a way
that makes certain that we -- they are protective of the national security
needs of our country, while making certain that it's all done within the
Constitution. And that's what the courts have found today.

Q I understand the argument, but why is just publishing their names such a
threat to national security?

MR. FLEISCHER: When it comes to the legal matters of how cases are
prosecuted in a court or the procedures by which detainments are followed,
the Department of Justice is your source on that. The Department of Justice
may have more to indicate on that.

I'd note today the Department of Justice is also announcing today the
follow-up to the President's announcement in the State of the Union from
two years ago about policies dealing with banning racial profiling. The
Department of Justice has an important announcement that they are making
today about the follow-up to that, where they are taking action now to make
certain that racial profiling is not allowed by our federal law enforcement
agencies. And the President is very pleased to hear the Department of
Justice taking that action today.

Q Ari, you said several times today, the President is still confident that
weapons of mass destruction will be found in Iraq. But last week the
President made a distinction, and said that he was confident evidence of a
weapons of mass destruction program --

MR. FLEISCHER: Right. And I was asked about that when the President said
that, and I indicated to the press that very day that the President uses
the two interchangeably. When he says, weapons program, he means also,
weapons of mass destruction.

Q And can you give us an update on Ambassador Wolf's activities in the
Mideast?

MR. FLEISCHER: Ambassador Wolf is on the ground in the Middle East. He's
already had a series of meetings with officials there. And there are a
series of talks that are underway in the Middle East. There are talks
between Palestinians and the Palestinians -- different entities within the
Palestinian community -- including the terrorist organization Hamas.

The Ambassador is in contact with Israeli officials; he's in contact with
Palestinian officials. And the reason he is there and the reasons that
Secretary Powell and Dr. Rice met yesterday with the Israeli chief of staff
-- the chief of staff to the Israeli Prime Minister -- was because of the
President's strong message, which he continues to repeat, about the need
for the parties to adhere to the road map to follow the vision toward
peace. There's a lot of work underway behind the scenes in these meetings
that I just described, trying to help achieve the return of the peace
process laid out in the road map.

Q Thank you. Two questions, Iran and Saudi Arabia. First on Iran. How much
support is the U.S. willing to give the students -- the dissenting students
who are actually putting their lives at risk in their protests?

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, we're alarmed about the reports of the arrests and the
provocations that the Iranian regime has taken against the protesters. The
protesters are expressing their peaceful voices. They're expressing their
yearning to have a government that is representative and a government that
is tolerant. And as the President said in his July 12th statement, which is
his definitive statement of policy of United States' approach to Iran, we
believe in the voices of these Iranians and we hope the day will come when
the Iranians have a government that allows reform to take place.

Q Will the U.S. intervene to protect them in any way?

MR. FLEISCHER: No, our message is the voice of support that you have heard
for the Iranian students.

Q Also, on Saudi Arabia. There's been quite a bit of publicity today on the
Saudis' alleged support of terrorist groups, and also on the issue of
divided families, American families hold up in the embassy, and so forth,
trying to get their half-Saudi children out of the country. Any comments on
those two issues?

MR. FLEISCHER: No. On the second one, that's a State Department matter that
is a specific matter. Family by family, they review these cases. It's not
only in Saudi Arabia where you have heartrending cases about family
disputes that involve the laws of another country and the laws of the
United States. That happens around the world. And that's why the State
Department has consular offices and diplomats stationed around the world,
to help each family deal with the specifics of their individual case with
each foreign country.

Q Saudi support of terrorists?

MR. FLEISCHER: Saudi Arabia, as the President has said, is a good ally of
the United States in the war against terror. And certainly Saudi Arabia,
even before, but especially since the bombing in Riyadh, has stepped up its
activities to fight terror.

Q Senator Patrick Leahy sent the President a list of names of candidates
that he finds acceptable to fill a vacancy on the Supreme Court. What is
the President's response to the Senator, who is stepping outside the
Senate's traditional advise and consent role?

MR. FLEISCHER: Well, number one, there are no vacancies on the Supreme
Court. Number two, in the event a vacancy were to occur at some point in
the future, the President will follow the Constitution. And the
Constitution says that the President shall nominate, and the Senate shall
participate through advice and consent.

Q Ari, on page one of this morning's Washington Times, you are quoted as
disagreeing with the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in
saying, "The President's message is that the best security comes from the
Israelis and Palestinians working together to fight terror." And my
question is, can you name even one Palestinian organization or individual
who has ever expressed realistic willingness to join Israel in fighting
Hamas or any of the many other Palestinian terrorist organizations?

MR. FLEISCHER: This is why what took place in Jordan was so important,
because previously, with Yasser Arafat in charge of the Palestinian
Authority, the answer was hard to find. Now there is a new moment of
opportunity both for the Israelis and for the Palestinian people, with
Prime Minister Abbas and with his Security Minister Dahlan in charge --
Mohammed Dahlan, in charge of fighting terror.

And the President does believe in the statements that he received from
Prime Minister Abbas about his dedication to finding a peaceful solution,
and to fighting terror. And, very importantly, the Arab nations are also
participating in helping Prime Minister Abbas and Minister Dahlan to be
successful on their fight against the terrorist elements.

Q Former Vermont Governor Howard Dean, who won the Wisconsin state
Democratic convention poll decisively, over Senator Kerry and the others,
has said, regarding the location of Saddam's WMDs, "How much did the
President know, and when did he know it?" And my question is, in view of
the statements last year in which Senators Kerry, Liebermann, and Graham,
as well as Congressman Gephardt, all affirmed that Saddam had WMDs, doesn't
the President believe this Dean smear is more directed at Dean's rival
Democrats than at the President?

MR. FLEISCHER: I think -- the fact of the matter is there is a terrible
split in the Democratic Party and among its presidential candidates about
whether or not Saddam had weapons of mass destruction.

Q So he's going after the Democrats rather than the President, isn't he?

MR. FLEISCHER: Many who have the most experience have said that Saddam
Hussein has weapons of mass destruction, indeed.

Thank you.

The White House, Press Briefing With Ari Fleischer
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Otoño
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6:07:26 PM    

Re: An Earlier Patriot Act Brought Down a President

Dear Friends:

Thom Hartmann reminds us that every dark cloud does indeed have a silver
lining. Earlier in America's history, the Alien and Sedition Acts empowered
President John Adams to have his "unpatriotic" opponents arrested, and
specified that only Federalist judges on the Supreme Court would be both
judges and jurors. These forerunners of the Patriot Act reflected the new
attitude Adams brought to Washington D.C. in 1796--a  type of politics in
which no opposition was tolerated.

Thomas Jefferson beat Adams in the election of 1800 as a wave of voter
revulsion over Adams' phony and self-serving "patriotism" swept over the
nation (along with concerns about Adams' belligerent war rhetoric against
the French). Today, even a minor appearance by Howard Dean or Dennis
Kucinich--both on record for repealing much or all of the Patriot
Act--draws a large crowd. There's a growing conviction across the nation
that Dean--or possibly another non-DLC Democrat--can defeat Bush in 2004.

The future of our nation is now at risk just as much as it was in 1800:
It's time to wake up and work to elect and empower politicians interested
in real democracy. If we're successful, America may experience a revival
every bit as extraordinary as that brought about by Jefferson's Second
American Revolution.
________________________________

Common Dreams
June 16, 2003

How An Earlier "Patriot Act" Law Brought Down A President 
by Thom Hartmann
 
Many Americans are suggesting that the Patriot Act (and its proposed
"improvements" in Patriot II) is totally new in the experience of America
and may spell the end of both democracy and the Bill of Rights. History,
however, shows another view, which offers us both warnings and hope.

Although you won't learn much about it from reading the "Republican
histories" of the Founders being published and promoted in the corporate
media these days, the most notorious stain on the presidency of John Adams
began in 1798 with the passage of a series of laws startlingly similar to
the Patriot Act.

It started when Benjamin Franklin Bache, grandson of Benjamin Franklin and
editor of the Philadelphia newspaper the Aurora, began to speak out against
the policies of then-President John Adams. Bache supported Vice President
Thomas Jefferson's Democratic-Republican Party (today called the Democratic
Party) when John Adams led the conservative Federalists (who today would be
philosophically identical to GOP Republicans). Bache attacked Adams in an
op-ed piece by calling the president "old, querulous, Bald, blind,
crippled, Toothless Adams."

To be sure, Bache wasn't the only one attacking Adams in 1798. His Aurora
was one of about 20 independent newspapers aligned with Jefferson's
Democratic-Republicans, and many were openly questioning Adams' policies
and ridiculing Adams' fondness for formality and grandeur.

On the Federalist side, conservative newspaper editors were equally
outspoken. Noah Webster wrote that Jefferson's Democratic-Republicans were
"the refuse, the sweepings of the most depraved part of mankind from the
most corrupt nations on earth." Another Federalist characterized the
Democratic-Republicans as "democrats, momocrats and all other kinds of
rats," while Federalist newspapers worked hard to turn the rumor of
Jefferson's relationship with his deceased wife's half-sister, slave Sally
Hemmings, into a full-blown scandal.

But while Jefferson and his Democratic-Republicans had learned to develop a
thick skin, University of Missouri-Rolla history professor Larry Gragg
points out in an October 1998 article in American History magazine that
Bache's writings sent Adams and his wife into a self-righteous frenzy.
Abigail wrote to her husband and others that Benjamin Franklin Bache was
expressing the "malice" of a man possessed by Satan. The
Democratic-Republican newspaper editors were engaging, she said, in "abuse,
deception, and falsehood," and Bache was a "lying wretch."

Abigail insisted that her husband and Congress must act to punish Bache for
his "most insolent and abusive" words about her husband and his
administration. His "wicked and base, violent and calumniating abuse" must
be stopped, she demanded.

Abigail Adams followed the logic employed by modern-day "conservatives" who
call the administration "the government" and say that those opposed to an
administration's policies are "unpatriotic," by writing that Bache's
"abuse" being "leveled against the Government" of the United States (her
husband) could even plunge the nation into a "civil war."

Worked into a frenzy by Abigail Adams' and Federalist newspapers of the
day, Federalist senators and congressmen - who controlled both legislative
houses along with the presidency - came to the defense of John Adams by
passing a series of four laws that came to be known together as the Alien
and Sedition Acts.

The vote was so narrow - 44 to 41 in the House of Representatives - that in
order to ensure passage the lawmakers wrote a sunset provision into its
most odious parts: Those laws, unless renewed, would expire the last day of
John Adams' first term of office, March 3, 1801.

Empowered with this early version of the Patriot Act, President John Adams
ordered his "unpatriotic" opponents arrested, and specified that only
Federalist judges on the Supreme Court would be both judges and jurors.

Bache, often referred to as "Lightning Rod Junior" after his famous
grandfather, was the first to be hauled into jail (before the laws even
became effective!), followed by New York Time Piece editor John Daly Burk,
which put his paper out of business. Bache died of yellow fever while
awaiting trial, and Burk accepted deportation to avoid imprisonment and
then fled.

Others didn't avoid prison so easily. Editors of seventeen of the twenty or
so Democratic-Republican-affiliated newspapers were arrested, and ten were
convicted and imprisoned; many of their newspapers went out of business.

Bache's successor, William Duane (who both took over the newspaper and
married Bache's widow), continued the attacks on Adams, publishing in the
June 24, 1799 issue of the Aurora a private letter John Adams had written
to Tench Coxe in which then-Vice President Adams admitted that there were
still men influenced by Great Britain in the U.S. government. The letter
cast Adams in an embarrassing light, as it implied that Adams himself may
still have British loyalties (something suspected by many, ever since his
pre-revolutionary defense of British soldiers involved in the Boston
Massacre), and made the quick-tempered Adams furious.

Imprisoning his opponents in the press was only the beginning for Adams,
though. Knowing Jefferson would mount a challenge to his presidency in
1800, he and the Federalists hatched a plot to pass secret legislation that
would have disputed presidential elections decided "in secret" and "behind
closed doors."

Duane got evidence of the plot, and published it just after having
published the letter that so infuriated Adams. It was altogether too much
for the president who didn't want to let go of his power: Adams had Duane
arrested and hauled before Congress on Sedition Act charges. Duane would
have stayed in jail had not Thomas Jefferson intervened, letting Duane
leave to "consult his attorney." Duane went into hiding until the end of
the Adams' presidency.

Emboldened, the Federalists reached out beyond just newspaper editors.

When Congress let out in July of 1798, John and Abigail Adams made the trip
home to Braintree, Massachusetts in their customary fashion - in fancy
carriages as part of a parade, with each city they passed through firing
cannons and ringing church bells. (The Federalists were, after all, as
Jefferson said, the party of "the rich and the well born." Although Adams
wasn't one of the super-rich, he basked in their approval and adopted
royal-like trappings, later discarded by Jefferson.)

As the Adams family entourage, full of pomp and ceremony, passed through
Newark, New Jersey, a man named Luther Baldwin was sitting in a tavern and
probably quite unaware that he was about to make a fateful comment that
would help change history.

As Adams rode by, soldiers manning the Newark cannons loudly shouted the
Adams-mandated chant, "Behold the chief who now commands!" and fired their
salutes. Hearing the cannon fire as Adams drove by outside the bar, in a
moment of drunken candor Luther Baldwin said, "There goes the President and
they are firing at his arse." Baldwin further compounded his sin by adding
that, "I do not care if they fire thro' his arse!"

The tavern's owner, a Federalist named John Burnet, overheard the remark
and turned Baldwin in to Adams' thought police: The hapless drunk was
arrested, convicted, and imprisoned for uttering "seditious words tending
to defame the President and Government of the United States."

The Alien and Sedition Acts reflected the new attitude Adams and his wife
had brought to Washington D.C. in 1796, a take-no-prisoners type of
politics in which no opposition was tolerated.

For example, on January 30, 1798, Vermont's Congressman Matthew Lyon spoke
out on the floor of the House against "the malign influence of Connecticut
politicians." Charging that Adams' and the Federalists only served the
interests of the rich and had "acted in opposition to the interests and
opinions of nine-tenths of their constituents," Lyon infuriated the
Federalists.

The situation simmered for two weeks, and on the morning of February 15,
1798, Federalist anger reached a boiling point when conservative
Connecticut Congressman Roger Griswold attacked Lyon on the House floor
with a hickory cane. As Congressman George Thatcher wrote in a letter now
held at the Massachusetts Historical Society, "Mr. Griswald [sic] [was]
laying on blows with all his might upon Mr. Lyon.. Griswald.continued his
blows on the head, shoulder, & arms of Lyon, [who was] protecting his head
& face as well as he could. Griswald tripped Lyon & threw him on the floor
& gave him one or two [more] blows in the face."

In sharp contrast to his predecessor George Washington, America's second
president had succeeded in creating an atmosphere of fear and division in
the new republic, and it brought out the worst in his conservative
supporters. Across the new nation, Federalist mobs and
Federalist-controlled police and militia attacked Democratic-Republican
newspapers and shouted down or threatened individuals who dared speak out
in public against John Adams.

Even members of Congress were not legally immune from the long arm of
Adams' Alien and Sedition Acts. When Congressman Lyon - already hated by
the Federalists for his opposition to the law, and recently caned in
Congress by Federalist Roger Griswold - wrote an article pointing out
Adams' "continual grasp for power" and suggesting that Adams had an
"unbounded thirst for ridiculous pomp, foolish adulation, and selfish
avarice," Federalists convened a federal grand jury and indicted
Congressman Lyon for bringing "the President and government of the United
States into contempt."

Lyon, who had served in the Continental Army during the Revolutionary War,
was led through the town of Vergennes, Vermont in shackles. He ran for
re-election from his 12x16-foot Vergennes jail cell and handily won his
seat. "It is quite a new kind of jargon," Lyon wrote from jail to his
constituents, "to call a Representative of the People an Opposer of the
Government because he does not, as a legislator, advocate and acquiesce in
every proposition that comes from the Executive."

Which brings us to today. The possible ray of light for those who oppose
the attempts of George W. Bush to emulate John Adams is found in the end of
the story of Adams' attempt to suborn the Bill of Rights and turn the
United States into a one-party state:

* The Alien and Sedition Acts caused the Democratic-Republican newspapers
to become more popular than ever, and turned the inebriated Luther Baldwin
into a national celebrity. In like fashion, progressive websites and talk
shows are today proliferating across the internet, and victims of no-fly
laws and illegal arrests at anti-Bush rallies are often featured on the web
and on radio programs like Democracy Now.

* The day Adams signed the Acts, Thomas Jefferson left town in protest.
Even though Jefferson was Vice President, and could theoretically benefit
from using the Acts against his own political enemies, he and James Madison
continued to protest and work against them. Jefferson wrote the text for a
non-binding resolution against the Acts that was adopted by the Kentucky
legislature, and James Madison wrote one for Virginia that was adopted by
that legislature. Today, in similar fashion, over 100 communities across
America have adopted resolutions against Bush's Patriot Act, and, in the
spirit of Matthew Lyon, Vermont Congressman Bernie Sanders has introduced
legislation to repeal parts of the Act.

* Jefferson beat Adams in the election of 1800 as a wave of voter revulsion
over Adams' phony and self-serving "patriotism" swept over the nation
(along with concerns about Adams' belligerent war rhetoric against the
French). Today, even a minor appearance by Howard Dean or Dennis Kucinich -
both on record for repealing much or all of the Patriot Act - draws a large
crowd. There's a growing conviction across the nation that Dean - or
possibly another non-DLC Democrat - can defeat Bush in 2004.

* When Jefferson exposed Adams as a poseur and tool of the powerful elite,
the rot within Adams' Federalist Party was exposed along with it. The
Federalists lost their hold on Congress in the election of 1800, and began
a 30-year slide into total disintegration (later to be reincarnated as
Whigs and then as Republicans). Today, as the Tom Delay and Roy Blount
bribery scandals widen, tax cuts for the rich are understood for what they
are, and the corporate takeover of America is alarming average citizens,
the rot in the Republican Party is more and more obvious. Americans are
demanding representation for We, The People, and non-DLC Democrats, Greens,
and Progressives can offer it.

* In what came to be known as "The Revolution of 1800" or "The Second
American Revolution," Thomas Jefferson freed all the men imprisoned by
Adams as one of his first acts of office. Jefferson even reimbursed the
fines they'd paid - with interest - and granted them a formal pardon and
apology. Today, undoing the Patriot Act and kicking corporate money out of
Washington D.C. have become popular progressive and Democratic campaign
themes.

The history of John Adams' failed presidency gives hope and encouragement
to those committed to real democracy and genuine freedom. History shows
that when enough people become politically active, they can rescue the soul
of America from sliding into a corrupt, abusive police state.

The future of our nation is now at risk just as much as it was in 1800:
It's time to wake up and work to elect and empower politicians interested
in real democracy. If we're successful, America may experience a revival
every bit as extraordinary as that brought about by Jefferson's Second
American Revolution.

--Thom Hartmann (thom at thomhartmann.com) is the author of over a dozen
books, including "Unequal Protection: The Rise of Corporate Dominance and
the Theft of Human Rights" and "The Last Hours of Ancient Sunlight," and
the host of a nationally syndicated daily radio talk show.
www.thomhartmann.com This article is copyright by Thom Hartmann, but
permission is granted for reprint in print, email, blog, or web media so
long as this credit is attached.

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6:06:39 PM    

Re: Will Republicans Block Inquiry?

Dear Friends:

Will congressional Republicans block an inquiry into Bush's misdeeds?

A group of House members led by Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) are preparing to
submit a resolution of inquiry to the International Relations Committee.
The inquiry will request documents in the President's possession that
provide evidence to support his administration's claims that Iraq possessed
weapons of mass destruction.

This resolution is the equivalent of a subpoena to the president by
Congress. It requires a majority vote both in the committee and on the
House floor. The Republican majority is expected to quash the resolution,
but this resolution will force them to go on the record as aiding and
abetting Bush's version of the truth.
___________________________

The Village Voice
June 18-14, 2003 issue

Mondo Washington
by James Ridgeway

Whimper of Mass Destruction
What Didn't They Know? When Didn't They Know It?

A group of some 36 backbenchers in the House of Representatives is getting
set to force the Republican leadership to take a stand on the continuing
controversy over whether weapons of mass destruction exist in Iraq.

The House members, led by Democratic presidential long shot Dennis
Kucinich, will submit "a resolution of inquiry" to the International
Relations Committee, requesting that Bush turn over within 14 days
"documents or other materials in the President's possession that provide
specific evidence" in 10 instances where Bush, VP Cheney, or Defense
Secretary Rumsfeld claimed that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction.
These include Cheney's August 2002 assertion that "there is no doubt that
Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction"-a claim that was
reiterated by Bush in September at the UN and in October at a speech in
Cincinnati, along with further claims by Cheney and Rumsfeld. The latter
said on March 24, with much assurance, "We have seen intelligence over many
months that they have chemical and biological weapons, and that they have
dispersed them and that they're weaponized and that, in one case at least,
the command and control arrangements have been established."

The resolution amounts to a subpoena to the president by Congress. An
arcane feature of the House rules, it has been used infrequently, once in
1980 in an attempt to elicit facts relating to President Jimmy Carter's
brother Billy and his dealings with the Bolivian government, and once under
Clinton in connection with the White House travel-office scandal. It seeks
facts and nothing else.

A majority vote by the committee would put the resolution on the House
floor. Either in the panel or on the floor, the GOP leadership will without
doubt move to quash it. In doing so, the Democrats reason, the Republican
leadership will not only be carrying forward the White House cover-up, but
will be putting itself on record in backing the cover-up, a step that
conceivably could have repercussions in next year's elections.

There are 36 co-sponsors, including seven New York members, led by Charlie
Rangel and including Maurice Hinchey, Major Owens, Carolyn Maloney, Jerry
Nadler, and Edolphus Towns.

--Additional reporting: Phoebe St John and Joanna Khenkine

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6:06:12 PM    

Re: Kerry Accuses Bush of Misleading US

Dear Friends:

John Kerry, the leading Democratic presidential contender, has accused Bush
of misleading the country when he took the US into its war on Iraq, and
gives this as the reason for entering the race himself.  Kerry is a
decorated Vietnam veteran who later became a strong opponent of that war.
On Iraq, he has been somewhere in the middle. He supported the
congressional resolution last autumn giving Bush the right to use force
against Saddam Hussein, yet has been a strong critic of how the president
went about the job. Kerry is known for calling for regime change in
Washington, as well as in Baghdad, and is now pushing for a congressional
investigation into US intelligence on Iraq.
________________________

The Independent (UK)
June 20, 2003

Bush 'Misled Every One of Us', Says Rival for White House
by Rupert Cornwell in Washington

The leading Democratic presidential contender John Kerry has brought the
Iraqi weapons controversy to the forefront of the White House race,
accusing George Bush of "misleading every one of us" when he took the US to
war against Saddam Hussein.

Senator Kerry said the President made the case for war based on at least
two faulty intelligence findings - that Iraq had sought to buy uranium from
Niger, and that the Baghdad regime had drones able to mount biological
attacks on the US. Mr Kerry, on the campaign trail in New Hampshire, said
Mr Bush broke his promise to build an international coalition against
Saddam and then waged a war based on questionable intelligence. "He misled
every one of us," the Massachusetts Senator said. "That's one reason why
I'm running to be President of the United States."

Despite Mr Kerry's robust language, it remains to be seen whether his
broadside will ignite a political debate on Iraq's missing weapons. The
debate in the United States has been relatively low key compared with the
controversy in Britain, despite the post-conflict turmoil which has seen
several American soldiers killed by Iraqis.

One reason that Mr Bush has had an easier ride than Tony Blair is the
continuing public support for the war. The divisions among the nine
Democrats seeking to win his job in 2004 have also helped. Three of the
main candidates, Senator Joe Lieberman, Senator John Edwards and the former
House minority leader Dick Gephardt, have strongly backed the war. Two
other candidates, the former Vermont governor Howard Dean and Senator Bob
Graham, have sharply questioned pre-war intelligence and the use made of it
by the Bush administration.

But none of them has the stature on security issues of Mr Kerry, a
decorated Vietnam veteran who later became a vehement opponent of that war.

On Iraq, he has been somewhere in the middle. He supported the
congressional resolution last autumn giving Mr Bush the right to use force
against Saddam, yet has been a strong critic of how the President went
about the job.

But he has not always judged the mood right, running into a storm of
criticism on the eve of the war when he suggested that there was a need for
regime change in Washington as well as Baghdad.

He is on safer ground now, with his call for a full-scale investigation on
Capitol Hill. Mr Kerry said that it was too early to conclude whether or
not war with Iraq was justified. But a congressional investigation into US
intelligence on Iraq was essential.

He said: "I will not let him off the hook throughout this campaign with
respect to America's credibility and credibility to me, because if he lied,
he lied to me personally."

He said that it was not clear whether Mr Bush acted on poor, distorted or
politicised intelligence. "I don't have the answer," Mr Kerry said. "I want
the answer and the American people deserve the answer. I will get to the
bottom of this."

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6:05:48 PM    

Re: Indefensible Secrecy

Dear Friends:

The Washington Post editorial condemns the recent ruling by the US Circuit
Court of Appeals affirming that information concerning those detained
during the September 11 investigation can be withheld by the government
under the Freedom of Information Act.
This decision sets an ugly precedent--the government need only claim
"national security", and the courts will roll over. The Post calls for the
full appeals court or the Supreme Court to make it clear that the law in
this country does not permit intrusive government actions without
accountability.
______________________________

Washington Post
June 18, 2003

Indefensible Secrecy
Editorial

THE U.S. COURT of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit handed down
a dreadful decision yesterday affirming the government's authority to keep
secret basic information concerning the hundreds of people detained during
the Sept. 11 investigation -- information such as their names, dates of
arrest and release and the names of their lawyers. The government has
publicly tallied the number of people detained on immigration charges, few
of whom remain in custody. Others it has charged criminally, and it has
detained an unknown number of people as material witnesses. But to this
day, even in the face of allegations of abuse, the public lacks any
comprehensive sense of who was arrested and how they were treated. When a
coalition of civil liberties and other groups sued under the Freedom of
Information Act for better information, supported in a friend of the court
brief by The Washington Post Co. and other media organizations, a district
court judge ordered disclosure of the names of the detainees and their
attorneys. Now the court of appeals has reversed in a 2 to 1 decision that
sets an ugly precedent: The government need only whisper the words
"national security," the court says in effect, and the courts will roll
over.

The government argues that making information about detainees public could
give al Qaeda a road map to the investigation and expose potential
witnesses to intimidation. Such concerns may justify shielding some
information, but they can't justify blanket secrecy, for not even the
government contends that every detainee has connections to terrorism or
information about it. Yet Judge David B. Sentelle, writing for himself and
Judge Karen L. Henderson, finds an adequate basis for blacking out
everything. The law exempts from disclosure law enforcement material that
could reasonably be expected to compromise an investigation. In light of
the deference courts owe the government in national security matters, Judge
Sentelle writes, it should not second-guess the government's claims.

It is a mark of the decision's weakness that the majority does not even
attempt a real response to Judge David S. Tatel's persuasive dissent. The
purpose of the Freedom of Information Act, Judge Tatel writes, is
disclosure, not secrecy, and the burden is on the government to establish
that law enforcement material is exempt. While "the government's reasons
for withholding some of the information may well be legitimate," he writes,
its arguments are far too sweeping to establish that information about the
detainees is categorically exempt. Why does it need to protect the names of
innocent detainees who have no information to provide and from whose
detention al Qaeda could learn nothing? And even as it worries that
releasing information about detainees risks compromising its investigation,
he notes, the government releases information about detainees when doing so
suits its purposes. The court does not demand of the government a rational
relationship between its genuine needs and the shield it requests. It
simply accepts the government's "vague, poorly explained allegations, and
by filling in the gaps in the government's case with its own assumptions .
. . convert[s] deference into acquiescence."

In writing the Freedom of Information Act, Congress expected judges to hold
the executive branch's feet to the fire when it wishes to keep information
under wraps. The act does not always require disclosure. But it becomes
meaningless if the government can keep secret the names of hundreds of
people it has rounded up without giving a detailed and specific explanation
of the harm that a bit of sunshine would cause. The full appeals court or
the Supreme Court should clarify that the law in this country does not
permit intrusive government actions without accountability.

© 2003 The Washington Post Company
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6:05:21 PM    

Re: Another Victory for Bush/Ashcroft

Dear Friends:

In a 2-1 ruling that represented a victory for President Bush and Attorney
General John Ashcroft, a panel from the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals
determined that disclosing information could give terrorists dangerous
insight into the government's Sept. 11 investigation. The court affirmed
that such information can properly be withheld under an existing exemption
in the U.S. Freedom of Information Act. That provision exempts information
if it's compiled for law enforcement purposes and if revealing it "could
reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings."

When US Circuit Judge David Sentelle wrote "America faces an enemy just as
real as its former Cold War foes, with capabilities beyond the capacity of
the judiciary to explore," he was correct. We do face a real enemy, and, to
quote Walt Kelly's Pogo, we have met the enemy, and he is us.
________________________

USA Today
June 18, 2003

Court: No Obligation to Name Detainees

WASHINGTON (AP)--The government properly withheld names and other details
about hundreds of foreigners who were detained in the months after the
Sept. 11 attacks, a federal appeals court ruled Tuesday, deferring to
administration warnings about continued threats from terrorists.
In a 2-1 ruling that represented a victory for President Bush and Attorney
General John Ashcroft, a panel from the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for
the District of Columbia determined that disclosing information could give
terrorists dangerous insight into the government's Sept. 11 investigation.

Federal judges who are asked to compel such disclosures should defer to
White House concerns that they might help the nation's enemies, the appeals
panel said.

"America faces an enemy just as real as its former Cold War foes, with
capabilities beyond the capacity of the judiciary to explore," wrote U.S.
Circuit Judge David B. Sentelle. He said judges are "in an extremely poor
position to second-guess the executive's judgment in this area of national
security."

Ashcroft called the ruling "a victory for the Justice Department's careful
measures to safeguard sensitive information about our terrorism
investigations."

In a harsh dissenting opinion, Circuit Judge David S. Tatel accused his
colleagues of "uncritical deference to the government's vague, poorly
explained arguments for withholding broad categories of information about
the detainees."

Tatel, appointed by President Clinton in 1994, said the decision to
withhold the information prevents U.S. citizens from learning whether the
Bush administration "is violating the constitutional rights of the hundreds
of persons whom it has detained in connection with its terrorism
investigation."

Sentelle, appointed in 1987 by President Reagan, and Circuit Judge Karen
LeCraft Henderson, appointed by Bush's father in 1990, ruled that the list
of names could "constitute a comprehensive diagram of the law enforcement
investigation."

The decision was the latest in a string of legal victories in U.S. courts
for the administration. The government has so far largely withstood
challenges to its broad use of a powerful surveillance law, its closing of
immigration hearings and its use of enemy combatant laws to prosecute U.S.
citizens accused of ties to terrorists.

The latest courtroom battle focused on information about at least 762
foreigners who were inside the United States illegally and were detained
following the Sept. 11 terror attacks. More than 500 have been deported so
far.

A recent audit by the inspector general at the Justice Department found
"significant problems" with the detentions, including allegations of
physical abuse. Civil liberties groups have noted that only one of those
detained, Zacarias Moussaoui, has been charged with any terrorism-related
crime.

Ashcroft told lawmakers this month that some of the foreigners "had strong
links to the terrorists," but that in some cases evidence was insufficient
or too sensitive to bring criminal charges.

Ashcroft has publicly described one detainee as a roommate of one of the
hijackers; another acknowledged training in a terrorist camp in
Afghanistan; another traveled from New York on Sept. 11 with a pilot's
license and flight materials; and another was found with 30 photographs of
the World Trade Center and papers that Ashcroft described as "Jihad
materials."

The new appeals decision rejected arguments by the Center for National
Security Studies and other public interest groups that the Justice
Department should publicly provide the names of the detainees, names of
their lawyers, dates they were picked up and the reasons they were
detained.

"We're disappointed that for the first time ever, a U.S. court has
sanctioned secret arrests," said Kate Martin, a lawyer for the center. She
said the organization plans to pursue the case.

The court affirmed that the information can properly be withheld under an
existing exemption in the U.S. Freedom of Information Act. That provision
exempts information if it's compiled for law enforcement purposes and if
revealing it "could reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement
proceedings."

"It's disturbing that the court takes the position that the war on
terrorism trumps all other considerations," said David B. Sobel of the
Electronic Privacy Information Center, who also participated in the case.

Said dissenting judge Tatel: "Just as the government has a compelling
interest in ensuring citizens' safety, so do citizens have a compelling
interest in ensuring that their government does not, in discharging its
duties, abuse one of its most awesome powers, the power to arrest and
jail."

The appeals decision did not refer directly to the inspector general's
findings critical of the detentions, although lawyers said they sent a copy
of the audit report to the appeals court before Tuesday's ruling.

U.S. District Judge Gladys Kessler ordered the government last August to
release detainees' names but delayed enforcing her order to let the
government appeal. Kessler also had ruled that the Justice Department could
withhold the other information.

Tuesday's appeals decision, however, permits the Bush administration to
withhold the names of the foreigners and their lawyers.

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6:04:24 PM    

Re:  An Australian Hero Emerges

Dear Friends:

AP reports Andrew Wilkie, "a former Australian defence analyst who resigned
in March claiming the government was exaggerating the Iraqi threat is to
appear before British MPs investigating intelligence on Baghdad's weapons
programmes... He quit in protest [after] Prime Minister John Howard ...
backed US and British claims that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and
links to the al-Qaida terror network [and] sent 2,000 Australian troops to
the war that toppled the Iraqi regime.

After resigning, Mr Wilkie argued that intelligence available to Australia
suggested Iraq did not pose a serious threat to the United States and its
allies. Wilkie told The Sydney Morning Herald he would expose the
government's 'exaggeration' of intelligence on weapons of mass destruction
and 'concoction' of links between former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein and
terrorists in his appearance at the inquiry."  We applaud Mr. Wilkie's
actions. An Australian hero emerges.
__________________________

AP
June 16, 2003  
 
Australian Expert to Expose Iraqi Weapons 'Exaggeration'

A former Australian defence analyst who resigned in March claiming the
government was exaggerating the Iraqi threat is to appear before British
MPs investigating intelligence on Baghdad's weapons programmes.

Andrew Wilkie is a former army officer who worked at Australia's Office of
National Assessments, which provides intelligence evaluations for the
government in Canberra.

He quit in protest over the case Prime Minister John Howard made to the
public for going to war in Iraq without a United Nations mandate.

Mr Howard backed US and British claims that Iraq had weapons of mass
destruction and links to the al-Qaida terror network. He sent 2,000
Australian troops to the war that toppled the Iraqi regime.

After resigning, Mr Wilkie argued that intelligence available to Australia
suggested Iraq did not pose a serious threat to the United States and its
allies. He also claimed the war would only fuel terrorist fervour for more
attacks on the West.

Wilkie told The Sydney Morning Herald he would expose the government's
"exaggeration" of intelligence on weapons of mass destruction and
"concoction" of links between former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein and
terrorists in his appearance at the inquiry.

"The claim was obviously false. There is no doubt that Iraq did have
weapons at one time and something will eventually be found and dressed up
as justification, but it won't be anything of the magnitude we were led to
believe," Wilkie said.

He was speaking at Sydney airport before flying to London to appear before
the inquiry this week.

Iraq's alleged nuclear programme and cache of chemical and biological
weapons was the prime justification used by the US and its allies for going
to war in Iraq. So far, troops investigating suspected weapons sites in
Iraq have returned empty handed.

© Associated Press
Copyright © 2003 Ananova Ltd
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6:03:51 PM    

Re: WMD Lies Could be the New Watergate

Dear Friends:

More and more, journalists are asking if the falsehoods told about the
weapons of mass destruction could turn into the new Watergate. This would
truly be a consciousness-raising experience, and one that is long overdue.
Just as in the times of Nixon, a president would be called upon to be
governed by the law of the land and responsive to the people within that
country. Just as in the times of Nixon, a president would be asked what did
he know, and when? And perhaps, just as in the times of Nixon, a president
would leave office, rightfully disgraced, in punishment for his crimes
against America.
____________________________

The Village Voice
June 18 - 24, 2003 issue

Press Clips
by Cynthia Cotts

Reason to Deceive
WMD Lies Could Be the New Watergate

If media companies want to boost ratings and credibility at the same time,
they should follow the lead of New York Times columnists Paul Krugman and
Nicholas D. Kristof and make weapons of mass destruction the top story of
the summer. Not only have President Bush and his administration exaggerated
the evidence that Iraq had WMD, but now that news of their lies has leaked
out, the pro-war camp is spinning like mad. The odds of exposing a major
cover-up are looking very good indeed.

Consider the momentum this story has picked up from the Times Op-Ed page in
recent weeks. On May 30, Kristof reported that according to "a torrent" of
sources, WMD intelligence was "deliberately warped . . . to mislead our
elected representatives into voting to authorize [the war in Iraq]." On
June 3, Krugman noted that "misrepresentation and deception are standard
operating procedure for this administration," and on June 10, he demanded
accountability, blasting the Bush team's m.o. as one of "cherry picking, of
choosing and exaggerating intelligence that suited [their] preconceptions."


At press time, the Bush team and Tony Blair stand widely accused of
intentionally publicizing bogus evidence to justify the war. Not only did
Bush rely on forged documents when he made the claim in his State of the
Union address that Iraq tried to purchase uranium from Niger, but, as
Kristof reported on May 6 and June 13, everyone in the intelligence
community knew this was a lie, including the office of Dick Cheney. With
some Democrats demanding public WMD hearings, the Bush team is running
scared, scheduling closed hearings and scheming to make CIA director George
Tenet the fall guy.

What did the president know, and when did he know it? The refrain dates
back to Watergate days, when Richard Nixon had to resign because of his
lies. Just think, with gavel-to-gavel coverage, WMD hearings could be an
enlightening spectacle, filling the cable channels with Watergate nostalgia
while reminding the world that in America, political leaders have an
obligation to tell the truth. Even lying about sex, as conservatives liked
to remind us during the Clinton era, is an impeachable offense.

Now that a Republican is accused of lying to launch an endless military
occupation, hawks are rushing to reassert the legitimacy of U.S.
aggression. But the "bouquet of new justifications," as Maureen Dowd calls
their arguments, have wilted quickly. What's the rush to find WMD? asks the
Bush camp. We found other neat stuff, like torture chambers. Saddam Hussein
had these weapons before, but he hid them really well--or maybe sent them
to Syria. Dr. Germ and Mrs. Anthrax aren't talking, 'cause they don't want
to be tried as war criminals. And besides, would Dubya lie to you?

The Bush defense begins and ends with the assertion that we're better off
now that the U.S. is occupying Iraq. Questioned on June 9 about his reasons
for going to war, Bush declared, "The credibility of the United States is
based upon our strong desire to make the world more peaceful, and the world
is now more peaceful." It is?

Some hawkish columnists invoke noble goals to justify the war, but they
dodge the question of organized deception. Writing for the British Mirror
on June 5, Christopher Hitchens argued that allegations of hyped evidence
do not discredit regime change in Iraq, concluding that the failure to find
WMD is "a good thing on the whole"--because it means Hussein has been
disarmed. On June 4, New York Times columnist Thomas L. Friedman shrugged
off WMD hype as a necessary selling technique for Bush, arguing that we hit
Hussein "because we could" and that what matters is whether we succeed at
building a "progressive Arab regime." In other words, the ends justify the
means.

In a June 8 op-ed, Washington Post columnist Robert Kagan apologized for
Bush and Blair by linking them with anyone who ever said Iraq had WMD. "If
Bush and [Blair] are lying," he wrote, "they're not alone. They're part of
a vast conspiratorial network of liars that includes U.N. weapons
inspectors and reputable arms control experts both inside and outside the
government." Post letter writers responded that the issue is not whether
Iraq had WMD in the past, but whether those weapons posed an imminent
threat and justified war. (Blair had endorsed bogus evidence that Hussein
could deploy his arsenal in 45 minutes flat.)

Bush is so comfortable bending the truth to defend this war that he
recently denied the consensus that no WMD have been found. On Polish TV
last month, he said, "We've found the weapons of mass destruction. You
know, we found biological laboratories. . . . And we'll find more weapons
as times goes on. But for those who say we haven't found the banned
manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong. We found them."

Ah, the mysterious labs, a/k/a trucks or trailers. These were introduced on
May 28 by U.S. officials who called them "the strongest evidence yet" that
Iraq was hiding a biological warfare program. But as a former UN inspector
told The Washington Post, "the government's finding is based on eliminating
any possible alternative explanation for the trucks, which is a
controversial methodology under any circumstances."

If wishful thinking fails, hawks can always fall back on blaming the
messenger. In a June 10 op-ed in the New York Post, the Heritage
Foundation's Peter Brookes suggested that if intelligence analysts felt
bullied by the Bush administration to cook the evidence, it was their fault
for not resisting the pressure. The same day, the Post's John Podhoretz
weighed in with the warning that anyone who accuses Bush of planting WMD
evidence will be exceeding the bounds of "taste, logic, good sense or
reason."

The most cynical strategy involves expressing disbelief that our leaders
are capable of lying. "Does anybody believe that President Bush [and his
military brass] ordered U.S. soldiers outside Baghdad to don heavy, bulky
chemical-weapon suits in scorching heat . . . to maintain a charade?" wrote
Charles Krauthammer in The Washington Post on June 13. On June 4, Brookes
explained why Bush and company are too smart to lie: If they intentionally
deceived the public, "not finding the weapons would then spell big trouble
for administration officials. Why tell a lie they knew would eventually
come to light?" The New York Post's Deroy Murdock chimed in on June 14 with
the opposite argument--these guys are actually too dumb to lie. "Were Bush
and Blair clever enough [to have hyped WMD]," wrote Murdock, "they should
be crafty enough by now to have 'discovered' enough botulinum to have
justified hostilities."

In retrospect, the Bush administration's most publicized war stories have
all been the products of smoke and mirrors. Contrary to the initial hype,
the Hussein "decapitation strike" turned up no bodies and no bunkers.
Chemical Ali walked out alive. Jessica Lynch was never shot, stabbed, or
tortured by Iraqis. And despite all the hot tips Ahmad Chalabi spoon-fed to
New York Times reporter Judith Miller, the WMD search teams have not found
a single silver bullet or smoking gun. The war on Iraq is a Byzantine
puzzle that begins and ends with a lie. The media have an obligation to
expose it.

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reserved.
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