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"Conversation. What is it? A Mystery! It's the art of never seeming bored, of touching everything with interest, of pleasing with trifles, of being fascinating with nothing at all. How do we define this lively darting about with words, of hitting them back and forth, this sort of brief smile of ideas which should be conversation?" ~ Guy de Maupassant ~

Saturday, December 10, 2005

Ethan is asking questions about what it would mean for GV to get much more multi-lingual and how do we get there? What are the big ideas for GV going on?

Some ideas :

  • Pat Hall from Blogamundo starts off by saying distances stop becoming an issue in this online world, but language remains one. You keep hitting language barriers. One model is for translation facilities for certain posts in language. The other case is for a model that brings voices in different languages per se into the GV conversation - eg a Chinese GV or a Spanish GV. How can GV enable posts to be translated from Spanish to Chinese? Machine translations will not work says Pat Hall.
  • Farid Pouya tells us about an idea he had - bloglogue. Blogs + Dialogue. He proposes that we could select subjects and invite people to debate them - bloggers and non-bloggers too. Can we therefore create a reservoir of information around a wide range of topics and issues.
  • Creative Commons as issuing 'remix' licenses (am not sure if i got this right)
  • Evolving Chinese-English lexicon on women in law - an example. Chinglish (reminds me of Hinglish). One learning on process - it wasn't as important to have that lexicon product - but the debates and conversation over the whole year and the process by which it happened were incredibly interesting. . Suggestion - use the process to build lexicon. Rebecca then suggests should the translation happen on a wiki? We need a blog-wiki hybrid she says -- I agree !!!
  • Do we start pages by language at the wiki? We have pages by country now, but not by language.
  • Meeting in the middle - can bloggers who have bridge blogs be more sensitive to the fact that they may be translated - when writing posts?
  • Learnings from BBC World Service -- initially employed translators - wasn't great, instead got journalists in local languages. It may be a good idea to have people who are bilingual - students, interns etc - who could scan which posts would need translation - so that they are funnelled down to a handleable and more relevant size.
Broadening the conversation beyond translation into other projects we may take on.
  • lets not talk about 'tools' - its a social activity
  • consider how to produce many different views on content without weighing readers down with bothering about tools.
  • democracy project - creating a blog on democracy - GV is a network that can be tapped into for other issues as well. A network of possible future activists?
  • Haitham who is the Middle East editor - what about countries where there is no blogosphere. Also, in regions like Middle East and North America there is a big gap between NGOs, human rights activists and bloggers. How can we bridge this. And finally, nobody knows what a blog is in the media, unlike in other parts of the world. How do we reach out to media?
  • Hoder - GV gives voice to people - we have always focussed on the 'what' - what is going on in these countries. What we haven't done is contextualising - why are these things going on? Recommend - move the link posts by regional editors to another place - and focus more on the analysis. Worry about right wing organisation funding GV - we need transparency around this. And finally, commission the writers. Dan Gillmor says - take money from right-wingers so long as you maintain transparency !
  • A request for Mobile blogging from the IRC channel from Angelo.
  • Publish a book
Rebecca on going forward - use the list, wiki, schedule time in the irc channel and post the transcripts.

I really do hope some of these conversations continue - one day felt too short for so many really interesting issues. One thing I'd like to see added to the blog are online presence indicators and callto or talkto buttons using IM and VOIP to better engage in conversations!




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Tools to continue our conversation globally :

GV05 Brainstorm Wiki

IRC Channel




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