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		<title>Andre Venter: Mac</title>
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			<title>Paolo</title>
			<link>http://paolo.evectors.it/2003/08/25.html#a1836</link>
			<description>&quot;I have tried importing quite a few PowerPoint presentations to Keynote, it doesn&apos;t only work, they usually improve.&quot; [&lt;A href=&quot;http://www.scripting.com/&quot;&gt;Scripting News&lt;/A&gt;]</description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2003 15:33:25 GMT</pubDate>
			<source url="http://www.scripting.com/rss.xml">Scripting News</source>
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			<title>New challenge: NFS on Mac OS X</title>
			<link>http://radio.weblogs.com/0125732/categories/macStuff/2003/08/12.html#a1184</link>
			<description>&lt;cite&gt;Since I have a bunch of projects in progress on my trusty 3-year-old G4, I need to be able to get to that stuff while I&apos;m spending a week over on my Linux machine with its brand-new Ximian XD2 desktop. I found a nice, graphical tool for OS X called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bresink.de/osx/NFSManager.html&quot;&gt;NFS Manager&lt;/a&gt; which installed and ran very nicely. I do have to set up a root account and hack into NetInfo to set up some domains to share. &lt;em&gt;I&apos;m already running netatalk on the Linux machine, so I can grab files easily from the Linux file system&lt;/em&gt;... &lt;/cite&gt; [&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gulker.com/&quot;&gt;www.gulker.com - words and pictures from Silicon Valley&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2003 19:53:08 GMT</pubDate>
			<source url="http://www.gulker.com/rss.xml">www.gulker.com - words and pictures from Silicon Valley</source>
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			<title>Blogs: Another Tool in the Security Pro&apos;s Toolkit (Part Two)</title>
			<link>http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/177</link>
			<description>&lt;cite&gt;In my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.securityfocus.com/columnists/173&quot;&gt;last column&lt;/a&gt;, I introduced you to blogging and blogs, and some of the issues that security professionals should consider before starting their own blogs. In this column we continue the discussion, and focus on blogs that specialize in security. &lt;/cite&gt; [Scott Granneman: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.securityfocus.com/&quot;&gt;SecurityFocus&lt;/a&gt;]  </description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:32:55 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>AppleScript</title>
			<link>http://www.facespan.com/facespan/pagespeed/url//features4.0/</link>
			<description>&lt;cite&gt;&amp;raquo;A public beta of &lt;a href=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;FaceSpan 4.0 for OSX&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is scheduled to be released on September 1, 2003. Be among the first to try FaceSpan 4.0 and to influence its future development. FaceSpan 4.0 is based on its an award winning predecessor, FaceSpan 3.5 a solution for creating feature-rich applications with AppleScript. Version 4.0 opens a new door by adding support for Mac OS X.  In fact, FaceSpan 4.0 is an entirely new application, rewritten from the ground up specifically to support Mac OS X and all of its new and powerful features.&amp;laquo;&lt;/cite&gt; [&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.schockwellenreiter.de/2003/08/12.html#030812011&quot;&gt;Der Schockwellenreiter&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:15:16 GMT</pubDate>
			<source url="http://www.schockwellenreiter.de/rss.xml">Der Schockwellenreiter</source>
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			<title>iPhoto 2: The Missing Manual</title>
			<link>http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/30/1826204</link>
			<description> [&lt;a href=&quot;http://slashdot.org/&quot;&gt;Slashdot&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2003 18:11:07 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Computer History Museum presenting AppleLORE</title>
			<link>http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2003/08/04/applelore/</link>
			<description>The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.computerhistory.org/&quot;&gt;Computer History Museum&lt;/a&gt; -- home to one of the largest collections of computer-related artifacts, documents, film, and photographs in the world -- is planning AppleLORE, the second in its series of commemorative events to capture and preserve stories from &quot;notable information age companies.&quot; An invitation-only event slated for Sept. 13, AppleLORE will celebrate Apple&apos;s 1976-1993 contributions to the computer industry. The event will be held at the Computer History Museum&apos;s new location (1401 N. Shoreline Boulevard, Mountain View), and is open to alumni of Apple and Claris who worked at the companies between 1976 and 1993. [&lt;a href=&quot;http://maccentral.macworld.com/&quot;&gt;MacCentral&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2003 16:18:04 GMT</pubDate>
			<source url="http://maccentral.macworld.com/mnn.cgi">MacCentral</source>
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			<title>Survey: Online music market headed to US$3.3B by 2008</title>
			<link>http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2003/07/28/onlinemusic/</link>
			<description>Apple&apos;s iTunes Music Store could by vying for a piece of a US$3.3 billion pie by 2008, if market research firm Jupiter Research, a division of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jupitermedia.com&quot;&gt;Jupitermedia Corp.&lt;/a&gt;, is correct. The company predicts that by that date, buying music over the Internet will account for 26 percent of U.S. music spending. [&lt;a href=&quot;http://maccentral.macworld.com/&quot;&gt;MacCentral&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:31:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<source url="http://maccentral.macworld.com/mnn.cgi">MacCentral</source>
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			<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whiterabbits.com/MacNetJournal/#note_1452&quot;&gt;How to use a Linux box as an iTunes server&lt;/a&gt;. via MacOSXHints: How to use a Linux machine as an iTunes music server... [&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whiterabbits.com/MacNetJournal/&quot;&gt;Mac Net Journal&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:12:55 GMT</pubDate>
			<source url="http://www.whiterabbits.com/macnetjournal/news.rss">Mac Net Journal</source>
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			<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2003/07/28/mayaple/&quot;&gt;Alias announces Maya Personal Learning Edition 5&lt;/a&gt;. Silicon Graphics Inc. subsidiary &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.alias.com&quot;&gt;Alias Systems&lt;/a&gt; announced on Monday the release of Maya Personal Learning Edition 5, a new version of the 3D graphics and animation software that&apos;s free for non-commercial use. Based on the most recent version of Maya Complete, Maya Personal Learning Edition 5 touts a new hardware rendering option that uses the latest graphics card technology, a unified rendering workflow, animation enhancements to constraints, forward/inverse kinematics and ghosting, Maya Paint Effects polygon conversion and more. Maya Personal Learning Edition 5 is compatible with Mac OS X and Microsoft Windows. [&lt;a href=&quot;http://maccentral.macworld.com/&quot;&gt;MacCentral&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:12:47 GMT</pubDate>
			<source url="http://maccentral.macworld.com/mnn.cgi">MacCentral</source>
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			<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/2003/07/28/safari/&quot;&gt;Safari global usage share more than doubles since Feb.&lt;/a&gt;. Web analytics research firm &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.onestat.com&quot;&gt;OneStat.com&lt;/a&gt; revealed on Monday global usage statistics for leading Web browsers. Apple saw the global usage share of its Safari browser more than double since February, according to the report. OneStat.com indicated that Safari increased its global usage share from 0.11 percent to 0.25 percent since February 2003. Based on KHTML from KDE&apos;s Konqueror open source project, Apple&apos;s Safari browser was released in January as a public beta test version. The software was downloaded more than five million times during its beta test, according to Apple. Apple released Safari 1.0 in June, along with a software development kit (SDK) that enables Mac OS X developers to embed the Safari HTML rendering engine in their own software. [&lt;a href=&quot;http://maccentral.macworld.com/&quot;&gt;MacCentral&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:10:33 GMT</pubDate>
			<source url="http://maccentral.macworld.com/mnn.cgi">MacCentral</source>
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			<description>&lt;IMG SRC=&quot;http://www.gulker.com/graphics/cube_cd.jpg&quot; height=87 width=72 hspace=8 border=0 align=left&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Apple&apos;s G4 Cube&lt;/strong&gt; is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,59764,00.html/wn_ascii&quot;&gt;alive and selling&lt;/a&gt; according to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wired.com/news/&quot;&gt;Wired News&lt;/a&gt;. Our original (other than a RAM upgrade) 450 MHz Cube&apos;s been on and online since we bought it almost exactly 3 years ago. Running OS X 10.2.6, it currently handles DNS, the blog content management system, a Web cam and is the Mac we use when another family member is on the big-screen G4. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cubes can still fetch $1000 on eBay (try that with a 3-year-old PC) and a number of companies sell them with upgraded processors, RAM and video cards. One German cube-owner has wedged in 2 1GHz G4s, complete with water-colling system. &lt;em&gt;Check out the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cubeowner.com/&quot;&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt; for cube-ownsers...&lt;/em&gt; [&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gulker.com/&quot;&gt;www.gulker.com - words and pictures from Silicon Valley&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:10:08 GMT</pubDate>
			<source url="http://www.gulker.com/rss.xml">www.gulker.com - words and pictures from Silicon Valley</source>
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			<description>&lt;strong&gt;The G4 Cube &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cubeowner.com/&quot;&gt;Blog&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is a good example of how markets can self-assemble around products. The trick for merchandisers is to figure out how to use blogs. One easy method would be to advertise on the blog - I&apos;m surprised that Cube upgrade makers PowerLogix, Sonnet et al don&apos;t seem to be advertising directly  on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cubeowner.com/&quot;&gt;CubeOwner.com&lt;/a&gt; (though a reseller is), the way used Mac resellers advertise on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lowendmac.com/&quot;&gt;Low-End Mac&lt;/a&gt;, a Mac site that includes a blog and forums.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Another way for vendors to go would be to start their own blogs - product blogs run by product managers or other knowledgeable people. It would require somebody who &apos;got it&apos; about blogs, but these could link out to, and be linked back from, the afficianado sites if they did a good job and provided useful and interesting stuff (not just product pitches, though those would be OK).  This might be a cheaper, and more effective medium.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Macromedia&apos;s Flash MX technologies have a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.markme.com/mesh/index.cfm&quot;&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;, Safari has a &lt;a href=&quot;http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/hyatt/&quot;&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt; and OS X once had a developer&apos;s blog - all of which are (or were) well-read and much linked to.  &lt;em&gt;The key to using blogs for marketing is having a good product, writing and maintaining a decent, useful blog and identifying a few enthusiastic users who also have blogs...&lt;/em&gt; [&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gulker.com/&quot;&gt;www.gulker.com - words and pictures from Silicon Valley&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:09:40 GMT</pubDate>
			<source url="http://www.gulker.com/rss.xml">www.gulker.com - words and pictures from Silicon Valley</source>
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			<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120212&quot;&gt;Apple Slot Combo Drive Update.&lt;/a&gt; &quot;The update prevents Combo drives from intermittently failing to eject discs.&quot; This happened to me just the other day. [&lt;a href=&quot;http://wmf.editthispage.com/&quot;&gt;Hack the Planet&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2003 11:14:12 GMT</pubDate>
			<source url="http://wmf.editthispage.com/xml/scriptingNews2.xml">Hack the Planet</source>
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			<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://weblog.siliconvalley.com/column/dangillmor/archives/001048.shtml&quot;&gt;The Blogosphere, RSS, Microsoft, Apple, Etc.&lt;/a&gt;. My older, wiser brother Steve has posted three items called &quot;Shucks and Aww&quot; relating to the emergence of the blogosphere,... [&lt;a href=&quot;http://weblog.siliconvalley.com/column/dangillmor/&quot;&gt;Dan Gillmor&apos;s eJournal&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2003 15:50:42 GMT</pubDate>
			<source url="http://www.newsisfree.com/HPE/xml/feeds/59/1459.xml">Dan Gillmor&apos;s eJournal</source>
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			<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allosx.com/1053810150&quot;&gt;Speeding Up Mac Networks&lt;/a&gt; [&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allosx.com&quot;&gt;All OS X&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2003 15:49:57 GMT</pubDate>
			<source url="http://www.allosx.com/rdf">All OS X</source>
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			<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lockergnome.com/update/archives/week_2003_05_18.html#005570&quot;&gt;Operating Systems&lt;/a&gt;. As I was browsing websites, I (once again) came across the great debate: X vs. XP.  So I&apos;d like to know: which one is your favorite OS?  Mac OS X?  Windows XP?  Linux?  Please go into detail if possible and explain your reasoning.  Hopefully, it will be fun! (Aaron) [&lt;a href=&quot;http://update.lockergnome.com/&quot;&gt;Lockergnome&apos;s Bits and Bytes&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2003 15:32:36 GMT</pubDate>
			<source url="http://www.lockergnome.com/lockergnome.xml">Lockergnome&apos;s Bits and Bytes</source>
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			<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allosx.com/1053097628&quot;&gt;&apos;Learning Maya Personal Edition&apos; Reviewed&lt;/a&gt; [&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allosx.com&quot;&gt;All OS X&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2003 18:01:14 GMT</pubDate>
			<source url="http://www.allosx.com/rdf">All OS X</source>
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			<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allosx.com/1053098279&quot;&gt;Ripping DVDs on Mac OS X&lt;/a&gt; [&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allosx.com&quot;&gt;All OS X&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2003 18:01:08 GMT</pubDate>
			<source url="http://www.allosx.com/rdf">All OS X</source>
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			<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allosx.com/1052849089&quot;&gt;Mac OS X for Java Geeks&lt;/a&gt; [&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allosx.com&quot;&gt;All OS X&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2003 17:51:41 GMT</pubDate>
			<source url="http://www.allosx.com/rdf">All OS X</source>
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			<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://web.mit.edu/zacheiss/ops/src/Rendezvous/mDNSWindows/&quot;&gt;Rendevouz for Windows&lt;/a&gt;. There is someone called Bob Bradley working on a  implementation &lt;a href=&quot;http://web.mit.edu/zacheiss/ops/src/Rendezvous/mDNSWindows/&quot;&gt; Rendezvous for Windows&lt;/a&gt;. It is a technology that allows self-configurating TCP/IP-networks and -services. It was outlined by many people under the codename &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zeroconf.org/&quot;&gt;ZeroConf&lt;/a&gt; and Apple is the first major OS vendor &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.apple.com/macosx/jaguar/rendezvous.html&quot;&gt;to include it in MacOS X&lt;/a&gt;. [&lt;a href=&quot;http://owrede.khm.de/&quot;&gt;owrede_log&lt;/a&gt;]</description>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2003 16:17:53 GMT</pubDate>
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