Friday, March 19, 2004

NYT oped on Spain and intent.
Posted here Friday, March 19, 2004 at 10:22:17 PM    

It id do hsrd for the press to untangle the realitis any ideologies in the spanish situation.

A friend called me from New York and told me that perhaps the electoral defeat of Prime Minister José María Aznar's Popular Party, which supported President Bush and the war in Iraq, was a triumph for Al Qaeda and terrorism. I think that Spanish voters were not bowing to Al Qaeda but instead punishing the Aznar government's arrogance in ignoring their wishes — as well as its subordination to the rude, inept and bellicose leadership of President Bush.

They were also punishing the government for its contempt for the common spaces of international sovereignty. We are members of the European Union and the United Nations, and we are proud of that status, especially after decades of isolation under Francisco Franco. The March 11 attacks did not frighten us into voting out the Popular Party, but they did reawaken our desire, long repressed by the Aznar government, to stand with the international community.

Seems simpy clear,


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SPain and Franco, Europe and the fascists, war, war, war, no wonder..
Posted here Friday, March 19, 2004 at 10:15:45 PM    

Today"s counterpunch reminds us that one of the key reasons people in Europe are s su[icious is ebcause they have been thru it. Spain unerFranco...

 


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Iraq,McNamara and Polibius about 140 BC.
Posted here Friday, March 19, 2004 at 8:53:09 PM    

War is terrible and we do not seeit. There is a nw movie, the fog of war, as a long inerview with McNamara, in which he syas, yes, after firebombing japan, if the otehr side had won, he an clark would have been convicted - rightly - of war crimes. he says we do not understand.

The middle east is difficult, it was not much but a swath afteswath of moving armies and evastation. heris from Polibius on the ars between Rome and Carthage.

85. But when they had used up for food the captives in this horrible manner, and then the bodies of their slaves, and still no one came to their relief from Tunes, their sufferings became too dreadful to bear; and the common soldiers broke out into open threats of violence against their officers. Thereupon Autaritus, Zarzas, and Spendius decided to put themselves into the hands of the enemy and to hold a parley with Hamilcar, and try to make terms. They accordingly sent a herald and obtained for the despatch of an embassv. Tt consisted often ambassadors who, on their arrival at the Carthaginian camp, concluded an agreement with Hamilcar on these terms: "The Carthaginians may select any ten men they choose from the enemy, and allow the rest to depart with one tunic apiece." No sooner had these terms been agreed to, than Hamilcar said at once that he selected, according to the terms of the agreement, the ten ambassadors themselves. The Carthaginians thus got possession of Autaritus, Spendius, and the other most conspicuous officers. The Libyans saw that their officers were arrested, and not knowing the terms of the treaty, believed that some perfidy was being practised against them, and accordingly flew to seize their arms. Hamilcar thereupon surrounded them with his elephants and his entire force, and destroyed them to a man. This slaughter, by which more than forty thousand perished, took place near a place called the Saw, so named from its shape resembling that tool.


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Review of The Birth Of The Palestinian Refugee Problem Revisited
Posted here Friday, March 19, 2004 at 5:27:51 PM    

Good review of the early palestinian - israeli history in a review of the book.

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2004/04/noteworthy.htm


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Terrorism as dominant issue. (unfortunately)
Posted here Friday, March 19, 2004 at 4:48:32 PM    

As of today, it looks posible that Madrid can have the impact of further uniting the world in a saner strategy in coping with causes and actualities of terrorism and simultaneously  isolating the US. The US may lose any acceptable sense of "leadership" in the struggle to define "terrorism" and put it behind us (there are always new issues..)

 

The alternative might be, some have suggested , a forty year "war" defined by our own belicosity.


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Foreign Affiars Mag articles
Posted here Friday, March 19, 2004 at 4:28:44 PM    

New Foreign Affairs articles of note

Smart Power
Suzanne Nossel
The Bush administration has hijacked a once-proud progressive doctrine--liberal internationalism--to justify muscle-flexing militarism and arrogant unilateralism. Progressives must reclaim the legacy of Wilson, Roosevelt, Truman, and Kennedy with a foreign policy that will both bolster U.S. power and unite the world behind it.
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The Ties That Bind: Americans, Arabs, and Israelis After September 11
Shibley Telhami
The war on terror has bound Israel and the United States closer together. But it has also deepened the rift between them and Arab and Muslim countries that rally behind the Palestinians. Peace in the Middle East has never seemed more elusive.
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Analysis of kegan paper.
Posted here Friday, March 19, 2004 at 3:31:04 PM    

An occasional analysis of a major article. In this case Robert Kagan's use of the Madrid bombing to posture the US and world into a dane he thinks is correct, but by too much body language against the fuller realities, at crucial points. IMHO. The text follows with notes in denteted.

Time to Save an Alliance


By Robert Kagan

Originally published in the Washington Post, Tuesday, March 16, 2004


The terrorist attack in Madrid and its seismic impact on the Spanish elections this past week have brought the United States and Europe to the edge of the abyss. There's no denying that al Qaeda has struck a strategic and not merely a tactical blow. To murder and terrorize people is one thing, but to unseat a pro-U.S. government in a nation that was a linchpin of America's alliance with the so-called New Europe -- that is al Qaeda's most significant geopolitical success since Sept. 11, 2001.

The description of what happened is crucial. The population was already 92% opposed to the war, and Aznar overrode national opposition to support the war. The bombing occured in that context, and in the context of the further use of the bombing to try to get ETA to appear as the guilty party. The vote then also included anger at the deception. To reduce it to unseating a pro us government is a partial truth only.

The unhappy reality is that a significant number of Spanish voters seem to have responded to the attacks in Madrid exactly as al Qaeda hoped they would.

If I do as my enemy wants does that mean supporting the enemy was my objective, or even the most important result? Of course not. Many lines of causality run simulataneously.

They believed their government's close cooperation with the United States, and specifically with the Bush administration in Iraq, had brought the wrath of the terrorist organization on them,

this ignores that they were opposed to the war from the beginning.

and that the way to avoid future attacks was to choose a government that would withdraw from Iraq and distance itself from the United States. Other European peoples and governments have quietly flirted with this kind of thinking in the past,

sexing it up with flirting avoids the fact that the french and the germans and the russians were deeply opposed, and took that position. this is not flirting, nor is it sex.

and not just recently but throughout the 1990s. But Spaniards have now made this calculus public. If other European publics decide that the Spaniards are right, and conclude that the safer course in world affairs is to dissociate themselves from the United States, then the transatlantic partnership is no more.

Not att all trye. the distancing depends on US policy, which should change to a vigorous multilateral approach at the level of police action, and not aimed at Iraq. Not that Iraq is good, but that it was a minor fact in the terror business.

Already there are statements by top European leaders that have the ring of dissociation. In a clear swipe at U.S. policy, European Commission President Romano Prodi commented in the wake of the Madrid attacks: "It is clear that using force is not the answer to resolving the conflict with terrorists." Terrorism, he said, "is infinitely more powerful than a year ago." So apparently Prodi accepts al Qaeda's logic, too.

Again, ignoring the French, German and Russian positions seems just dishonest.

In the coming days and weeks, Europeans will close ranks with Spain and express common European solidarity against al Qaeda terrorism. But there is a real danger that many Europeans will not extend the solidarity across the Atlantic.

And for reasoned cause, that the US approach is counter productive and too aligned with Bush political necessities. If the US approach was attractive, meaning multilateral and prceise, police rather than war, a new alignment along old lines would quickly emerge.

Some may argue, at least implicitly, that separation from the United States is one effective, nonviolent defense against future terrorist attacks.

Which might be true, but ineffective in dealing with the core issues theat generate terrorists and dcoping with the fact that they now already exist. Better thinking is necessary.

Needless to say, that would be a disaster for the United States. The Bush administration needs to recognize it has a crisis on its hands and start making up for lost time in mending transatlantic ties, and not just with chosen favorites.

So far, this seems right. let's see where it goes.

The comforting idea of a "New Europe" always rested on the shifting sands of a public opinion, in Spain and elsewhere, that was never as favorable to American policy as to the governments. The American task now is to address both governments and publics, in Old and New Europe, to move past disagreements over the Iraq war, and to seek transatlantic solidarity against al Qaeda.

This will not be  posible by Bush mererly asking peoples and governments to go along, based on already rejected arguments based on sound reasoning.

John Kerry has an important role to play now, too. The temptation for Kerry and his surrogates to use events in Spain to bolster their arguments against President Bush's foreign policy may be irresistible. But Kerry should think hard before he pushes the point too far. After all, he could be president next January.

Simple, he just would have (hope) a much smarter more nuanced policy

If Europeans respond to the attack in Spain by distancing themselves from the United States, a divided and dysfunctional West will be his inheritance. Like Bush, Kerry should move the transatlantic conversation beyond the Iraq war to the common war against al Qaeda.

Many in Europe would welcome weakening the US. A stronger Europe could then request that the weakened US play a supporting role in a multinational alliance, including Asia.

But the problem is not all on the American side, and neither is the solution. Responsible heads in Europe must understand that anything that smacks of retreat in the aftermath of this latest attack could raise the likelihood of further attacks.

This is pure fear mongering, without the benefit of realizing that such an approach makes us less sage, not more.

Al Qaeda's list of demands doesn't end with Iraq. The attack in Madrid was not just punishment for Spain's involvement in Iraq but for involvement with the United States in the war on terrorism. Al Qaeda's statement taking credit for the bombings in Madrid condemned Spain's role in Afghanistan, too. Al Qaeda seeks to divide Europe and the United States not just in Iraq but in the overall struggle. It seeks to convince Europeans not only that the use of force in Iraq was mistaken but that the use of force against terrorism in general is mistaken and futile -- just as Prodi is arguing. Are Europeans prepared to grant all of al Qaeda's conditions in exchange for a promise of security? Thoughts of Munich and 1938 come to mind.

This is really bad analysis. Of course al quesda makes demands, but al quesda is only a small part of total realiy. do what is good in the larger picture, and then titrate actions necessary to target al queda. as it exists, and the conditions that create more of it, which actually continue to flourish (through poverty and powerless of one kind or another).

The incoming Spanish government has declared its intention to move away from the United States and back to the "core of Europe," meaning France and Germany. Presumably Jacques Chirac and Gerhard Schroeder will welcome their new ally in Old Europe. But presumably they also know that dissociation from the United States in the wake of the Madrid bombings will be a disaster for Europe. If the United States cannot fight al Qaeda without Europe's help, it is equally true that Europe can't fight al Qaeda without the United States.

This is not at all obvious.

 If Europe's leaders understand this, then they and Bush should recognize the urgency of making common cause now, before the already damaged edifice of the transatlantic community collapses.

Common cause now means appearing to be supporting Bush as having been "correct" in his bsaic approach, including going after Iraq. Such a demand as part of common cause is not going to be acceptable to many, in europe or the US.

Robert Kagan, a senior associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, is the author of "Of Paradise and Power: America and Europe in the New World Order." He writes a monthly column for The Post.

 


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