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  10 July 2004

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My friends at Lucianne.com were very positive about the following article. They understand fully that given the unattractive mess that the Iraq war has become, there remains one and only one thing to do: Damage Control.

Gee Dubya Bush MUST NOT be held accountable for the war. Dubya MUST NOT BE BLAMED!

Unfortunately, this Republican administration can lay claim to one of two possible positions:

1. Dubya and his administration used intelligence provided by the CIA to make a case for war. This intelligence turned out to be incorrect. Though the administration is responsible for Policy, they were duped by a rogue CIA and are therefore incompetent to be sitting in the position of responsiblity that they now occupy.

or.

2. The Republican administration was instrumental in creating the environment in which the CIA fell into a "group think" that produced analysis intended to please the administration, and participated in spinning and cherry-picking the intelligence to support their preconcieved conclusions. And they are, therefore, culpable and unfit to be sitting in the position of responsiblity they now occupy.

The propostion in the following article begs the question of responsiblity and blame, because it tacitly pops-the-cork on a bottle of champaign while suggesting that the Republican administration did not "lie" and is therefore not to blame for the fiasco.

Unfortunately for the author, this contains the tacit admission that Iraq has indeed become a fiasco, and that there is blame to be had. As the saying goes "Success has a thousand fathers, whereas failure is always an orphan".

In the United States of America, the American People have a tradition, dating back to Harry Truman, of knowing where the proverbial "buck" stops.

One way or another, DUBYA AND HIS REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION ARE TO BLAME!

However, the Republican mantra will be "DON'T BLAME BUSH!"

Here are some comments from my friends at Lucianne.com:

The Senate Intel Report: So Much For 'Bush Lied'
New York Post, by John Podhoretz

Posted By: 7/10/2004 11:42:17 AM

THE Senate Intelligence Committee report on the intelligence failures gov erning run-up to the Iraq war is a devastating document — for those who might have thought the sole reason to go to war in 2003 was Saddam Hussein's presumed stockpile of weapons of mass destruction. The thing is, I don't know a single such person. Those who supported the war, in overwhelming numbers, believed there were multiple justifications for it.

Comments:


Reply 1 - Posted by:  7/10/2004 11:55:48 AM

There is no question as to who the real liars are in America. It is with the blessing and aid of the LBM that the liars think we don't know. November will be a really rude jolt to the liars.


Reply 2 - Posted by: 7/10/2004 11:56:13 AM

I want the Bush lied mantra to be the noose around the damocRats necks. There were no WMD's will come back to bite them in the bottom as well. I want to stick it to them about their stupid economy rantings as well.....
The Great Depression my rear!
I want them to rot in their own vile evil attitudes.
Most of all I want the ringleaders, traitors, and communists to be prosicuted along with Clinton and his partner in crime for the damage done to this country.
Every 9-11 family member should be up in arms at the Clinton administration and especially the Clintons for the crimes they have committed.
If Pelicano would only talk!!!


Reply 3 - Posted by: 7/10/2004 12:03:36 PM

Now the left will say Bush inadvertently told the truth because, when he said what he said, he meant to lie.

Ouch, my head hurts on that one.


Reply 4 - Posted by: 7/10/2004 12:05:40 PM

Thank you Mr. Podhoretz.

''The basis for the war in Iraq was not that Saddam could kill us all in 2003. It was that he might be in a position to do us and the world incomparable harm in the coming decade, and that the lesson of 9/11 was that (as President Bush said in June 2002) ''if we wait for threats to fully materialize, we will have waited too long.''

Unfortunately, for this last poster, what is not understood is that without full United Nations backing, any argument short of self-defense due to imminent threat, is internationally illegal. Dubya could have used this argument to gain international support and UN backing.. but that would have taken time.

Also, interestingly, this last statement can clearly be used to understand that Saddam was not an imminent threat to the United States, and that the Republican administration was seeking war on some other basis...

Then there is the problem of preemption as Policy. Assuming the Republican administration desires to continue a preemptive policy, it has now put the crediblity of the United States of America at risk because of the failure to discover ready W.M.D. and robust Al Qaeda connections. So, Dubya also kinda shot himself in the foot vis-a-vis his own policy. Again, the incompetence issue...

The John Podhoretz article in the New York Post, 10 July, can be found here: 

THE SENATE INTEL REPORT:  SO MUCH FOR 'BUSH LIED'

 

 


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My friends at Lucianne.com often like the way the New York Times" editorial page provides a synopsis of the situation. My last couple posts have provided a lot of background. But this editorial says a lot of things very concisely.

Personnally, I think so many miscaculations were made, and the foreign policy has been such a bust, that the only way forward is to replace the Republican adminstration, and get a fresh breeze on the entire mess.

Here's the editorial:

July 10, 2004

The Senate Report

In a season when candor and leadership are in short supply, the Senate Intelligence Committee's report on the prewar assessment of Iraqi weapons is a welcome demonstration of both. It is also disturbing, and not just because of what it says about the atrocious state of American intelligence. The report is a condemnation of how this administration has squandered the public trust it may sorely need for a real threat to national security.

The report was heavily censored by the administration and is too narrowly focused on the bungling of just the Central Intelligence Agency. But what comes through is thoroughly damning. Put simply, the Bush administration's intelligence analysts cooked the books to give Congress and the public the impression that Saddam Hussein had chemical and biological weapons and was developing nuclear arms, that he was plotting to give such weapons to terrorists, and that he was an imminent threat.

These assertions formed the basis of Mr. Bush's justifications for war. But the report said that they were wrong and were not a true picture of the intelligence, and that the intelligence itself was not worth much. The freshest information from human sources was more than four years old. The committee said the analysts who had produced that false apocalyptic vision had fallen into a "collective groupthink" in which evidence was hammered into a preconceived pattern. Their bosses did not intervene.

The report reaffirmed a finding by another panel investigating intelligence failures before the 9/11 attacks in saying that there was no "established formal relationship" between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda. It also said there was no evidence that Iraq had been complicit in any attack by Osama bin Laden, or that Saddam Hussein had ever tried to use Al Qaeda for an attack. Although the report said the C.I.A.'s conclusions had been "widely disseminated" in the government, Mr. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have repeatedly talked of an Iraq-Qaeda link.

Sadly, the investigation stopped without assessing how President Bush had used the incompetent intelligence reports to justify war. It left open the question of whether the analysts thought they were doing what Mr. Bush wanted. While the panel said it had found no analyst who reported being pressured to change a finding, its vice chairman, Senator John Rockefeller IV, said there had been an "environment of intense pressure." But the issue was glossed over so the report could be adopted unanimously.

The panel's investigation into how President Bush handled the intelligence has been postponed until after the election. But the bottom line already seems pretty clear. No one had to pressure analysts to change their findings because the findings were determined before the work started.

By late 2002, you'd have had to have been vacationing on Mars not to know what answer Mr. Bush wanted. The planning for war had begun. The C.I.A. was under enormous pressure over getting it wrong before 9/11. And the hawkish defense secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, wanted to set up his own intelligence agency to get the goods on Iraq that the wishy-washy C.I.A. couldn't seem to deliver.

Both political parties see all this as an election issue, and the international community will see the committee report as another reason to decry Mr. Bush's go-it-alone foreign policy. But the report also speaks to a critical long-term security threat. We cannot afford to have the public become too cynical about the government's assessment of danger.

There may well come a time when Mr. Bush, or another president, will have to ask the nation and its allies to back a pre-emptive military strike against terrorists, or a country that poses a real threat. And he's probably going to have to rely on intelligence that is hardly the "slam dunk" that George Tenet reportedly called these shoddy reports on Iraq. The public will have to believe that the president is acting against a real threat, not one manufactured to justify a political agenda.

This administration has not made it easier for people to have that confidence. Its continuing insistence on linking Iraq and Al Qaeda is not aimed at helping the public understand the situation in the Middle East, but at providing political cover for an increasingly unpopular invasion.

Then there are the news conferences that administration officials hold periodically to warn us that we're about to be attacked. Everyone is aware of the danger out there, but there is no reason to go on television and repeat vague warnings that seem to be intended to frighten everyone, but are more likely to lull people into complacency by their familiarity and repetition. When Tom Ridge, the secretary of homeland defense, holds a news conference to warn the nation of dire peril and it winds up as fodder for comedy shows, there's something very wrong somewhere./>

The Senate Intelligence Committee's report ought to be the first move back from the brink of destructive public cynicism. The next must come from the president, who could help restore confidence in the government's risk assessment by simply being frank about the errors his administration made and the lessons it learned. That would do more to prepare the country for the next crisis than a full season of scary press conferences by Mr. Ridge."

 


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