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25 March 2003
 

I was pointed to the site ogrish.com by Bernie - to be honest some of the pictures are sickening. As are many of the pictures on AlJazeera's website. Of interest to me was one particular picture that I am posting for only one reason - its 'sanitisation'. I will not normally be posting these images.

I will not comment on this picture, I will let you make up your mind - I am sure you can judge for yourself. The BBC shows the picture here. The picture is edited to remove the more gruesome parts -or maybe it was edited because of size? Whether they are right to do edit like this is highly debateable and contentious. Lycos meanwhile posted the entire picture here

What are your thoughts on me posting this picture? What are your thoughts in general on this subject?

Update: Chris Gulker has responded here - with his thoughts on the sanitisation of war. As Chris points out this is really an ethical question. Poynter has a good article on the questions one should ask.

Deborah Branscum has written a lenghty piece about the issue today. This include numerous links to debate about the issue.

Tim Porter has taken up the story here. Tim also deals with it head on:

Newspapers, and networks, should not withdraw from the need to report the whole war in Iraq. The public deserves the entire story; the First Amendment demands it.

An unidentified Iraqi man holds an unidentified girl wounded after U.S.-led coalition air strikes over the southern Iraqi city of Basra, Saturday March 22, 2003. (AP Photo/Nabil)


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Robert Fisk of the Independent is currently writing his stories from Baghdad. Some of the things he mentions are interesting - and I have thought about the way in which the Iraqi Ministers give the dead and wounded statistics - they don't appear over the top, and are quite believeable given the scale of UK-US bombing. He also gives some credence to the truthfulness of the Iraqi side of things - people that, as a Westerner, I am not supposed to believe.

But the sheer amount of military and statistical detail coming from the Iraqi authorities is beginning to make the US Centcom information boys look like chumps. On Sunday, the Iraqi Minister of Defence, General Sultan Hashim, gave a remarkable briefing on the war, naming the units involved in front-line fighting – the 3rd Battalion of the Iraqi army's 27th Brigade was still holding out at Suq ash-Shuyukh south of Nasariyah, the 3rd Battalion of the Third Iraqi Army was holding Basra. And I remembered how these generals gave identical briefings during the terrible 1980-88 war against Iran. When we set off to check their stories then, they almost always turned out to be true.

And are US-UK APCs and tanks being destroyed as the Iraqis claim?

Does the same apply now? General Hashem repeatedly insisted that his men were destroying US tanks and armour and helicopters.

This was easy to dismiss – until videotape of two burning US armoured personnel carriers popped up on the television screen. Vice-President Taha Yassin Ramadan has been obliging enough to explain the Iraqi army's tactics. It was Iraqi policy to let the Anglo-American armies "roam around" in the desert as long as they want, and attack them when they tried to enter the cities. Which seems to be pretty much what they are doing.

The Iraqis claim there are 62 dead civilians so far, and Fisk continues:

Sixty-two dead civilians – if the statistics are correct – is not a massacre. But there's nothing surprising about such a figure. It looks as if the Americans and British are bleeding to "liberate" a people who are not all that keen to be liberated by the Americans and British. A moral problem, of course. But not so big a moral problem as it would be if all this Iraqi suffering at the hands of the Americans and British turned out to be about oil.


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On March 4 2003, the Guardian published an article by Martin Amis. It was entitled 'Palace of the End'. I read the article and gave a synopsis of it on that day. The article has since been taken down from the Guardian's website.

But literally hundreds of people are looking for the article - I have had hundreds of visits to my site because people are looking for the full text of the article, unfortunately I only quoted some passages, and not the entire piece.

I received an email from the Guardian today, after reporting the broken link -

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For the record here is what I wrote on the 4th of March:

Martin Amis writes some thought-provoking stuff today. This is a truly brilliant piece. He is making some claims I have not read anywhere before, here is his claim:

We accept that there are legitimate casus belli: acts or situations "provoking or justifying war". The present debate feels off-centre, and faintly unreal, because the US and the UK are going to war for a new set of reasons (partly undisclosed) while continuing to adduce the old set of reasons (which in this case do not cohere or even overlap). These new casus belli are a response to the accurate realisation that we have entered a distinct phase of history.

Hmm. He sounds like Philip Bobbit. He goes on,

Who, on September 10, was expecting by Christmastime to be reading unscandalised editorials in the Herald Tribune about the pros and cons of using torture on captured "enemy combatants"? Who expected Britain to renounce the doctrine of nuclear no-first-use? Terrorism undermines morality. Then, too, it undermines reason.

Now he gets somewhat scary - but very insightful with regard to religion.

Why, in our current delirium of faith and fear, would Bush want things to become more theological rather than less theological? The answer is clear enough, in human terms: to put it crudely, it makes him feel easier about being intellectually null. He wants geopolitics to be less about intellect and more about gut-instincts and beliefs - because he knows he's got them. One thinks here of Bob Woodward's serialised anecdote: asked by Woodward about North Korea, Bush jerked forward saying, "I loathe Kim Jong II!" Bush went on to say that the execration sprang from his instincts, adding, apparently in surprised gratification, that it might be to do with his religion. Whatever else happens, we can infallibly expect Bush to get more religious: more theological.

This article keeps getting deeper.

A single untested nuclear weapon may be a liability. But five or six constitute a deterrent.

And now he is funny:

We hear about the successful "Texanisation" of the Republican party. And doesn't Texas sometimes seem to resemble a country like Saudi Arabia, with its great heat, its oil wealth, its brimming houses of worship, and its weekly executions?

And he goes on...

There are two rules of war that have not yet been invalidated by the new world order. The first rule is that the belligerent nation must be fairly sure that its actions will make things better; the second rule is that the belligerent nation must be more or less certain that its actions won't make things worse. America could perhaps claim to be satisfying the first rule (while admitting that the improvement may be only local and short term). It cannot begin to satisfy the second.

Up there with the best articles yet of 2003.


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Karlin has a text exerpt from a radio show, Pat Kenny on Radio 1 (Ireland), in which London Times journalist Christina Lamb made some interesting observations. I listened to the show at the time, but as usual, Karlin beat me to the blog story. Here is some of what Christina notes:

I'm not under any restrictions at all [in what I say]. I want into southern Iraq on Friday having heard all the reports that the Pentagon and the MoD [UK ministry of defense] kept issuing that Umm Qasr had fallen and that southern Iraq was going well and went in following an American military convoy and right over the border at a small place called Safwan we were greeted, instead of the cheering people you had heard about, we were greeted with people throwing stones at the tanks, making angry gestures and a very hostile environment which was quite a shock.


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Matthew Engel has a funny take on the 'French Fries' story. He wonders why the French have become the enemy when the war is being fought against the Iraqi regime. He hints that making France the enemy was a pursued policy of the UK and US. I would be inclined to agree. Many of the arguments used against the French position were spurious at best. And things seem to be getting worse - Engel mentions a man he met in Chicago.

At the bar, there was a man from Louisiana with his plane delayed: he was getting drunker. Down there, he said, people were exercised about the war: they were pouring French wine down drains. And there was talk, he said, of changing the name of both the French Quarter in New Orleans and the state capital, Baton Rouge, which would become Red Stick.

This anti-French stuff is such blatant nonsense. What worries me is the ease with which Americans were pesuaded into hating the French. And I'm not criticising Americans specifically on this one.

What worries me is the ease with which humans were persuaded into believing other people to be bad - to the point of writing graffitti on French people's garages. This only supports theories recently put forward that a future war between Europe and the US is on the cards - sound far fetched?

See how easy it is to get people to hate - the next step, killing in war, is not that far away from hating. There was an article in the Atlantic about this that I must refer to.


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George Monbiot again this week. He deals with the issue ot PoWs, and their rights. Monbiot questions the anger of the US administration at TV pictures of captured US soldiers - because they have done far worse to the prisoners of Guantanamo Bay.

His argument is telling here:

The US government claims that these men are not subject to the Geneva conventions, as they are not "prisoners of war", but "unlawful combatants". The same claim could be made, with rather more justice, by the Iraqis holding the US soldiers who illegally invaded their country. But this redefinition is itself a breach of article 4 of the third convention, under which people detained as suspected members of a militia (the Taliban) or a volunteer corps (al-Qaida) must be regarded as prisoners of war.

Monbiot then outlines even worse atrocities committed in Afghanistan, by Afghan warlords - with the apparent aid of US soldiers:

The US special forces running the prison watched the bodies being unloaded. They instructed Dostum's men to "get rid of them before satellite pictures can be taken". Doran interviewed a Northern Alliance soldier guarding the prison. "I was a witness when an American soldier broke one prisoner's neck. The Americans did whatever they wanted. We had no power to stop them." Another soldier alleged: "They took the prisoners outside and beat them up, and then returned them to the prison. But sometimes they were never returned, and they disappeared."

As for Donald Rumsfeld calling for the Geneva Conventions to be upheld:

It should not be necessary to point out that hospitality of this kind also contravenes the third Geneva convention, which prohibits "violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture", as well as extra-judicial execution. Donald Rumsfeld's department, assisted by a pliant media, has done all it can to suppress Jamie Doran's film, while General Dostum has begun to assassinate his witnesses.


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