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Sporadic notes about working with radio No Simpler than this Radio:

Wednesday, February 13, 2002

# 16:27  Radio 
  
 Asc Mo
yes, tables come naturally to the mind of an outliner. but but but.. just like the code/data forks we've come to love and turned into outline scripting on the one hand and oop on the other..  but lo and behold! there's a presentation fork as well, and a context fork too! (we'll get to that one later, lets keep hiding it in the data for now).

so, dave, go figure and reinvent the product for version 1.0.. I could support that.. and a notion of link-targets independent of where you uri's (uri aliasing, actually) pretty please while we're at it! You'll have a better outliner on your hands for doing that work.

 

# 16:22  Radio 
  
 Asc Mo
Tables are evil.

Dave Winer: "Those of us who use tables are part of a mass of people who learned to develop websites that way. It's impossible to get us to change. If that's your cause I'm not on board." Others (Owen, Dave, James, Sjoerd, Zeldman) have explained why table-based layouts are as archaic as Dave's viewpoint (which hasn't changed since 1996), so I'll just add a few words:

Dave, please recognize that you're in a special position to upgrade the web. Remember when Google upgraded the web by caching weblogs daily? A small, subtle change -- hardly noticeable on the surface, but you appreciated it. This is like that, only with page layout. You have the power to control the default templates used by thousands of people who don't know any better. Very few other people in the world have this kind of power, and you're squandering it. Look around you; listen to your users: they're not asking for much, they're just want default templates that validate (they can use HTML 4.01 Transitional if you like), some CSS-only choices on the templates page of Radio, maybe some downloadable CSS-only Manila templates too. Your users who know enough to appreciate it will appreciate it, and the rest deserve better, even if they don't know it.

Thanks for listening.

[diveintomark]

I want to sign this petition. 

# 03:59  Radio 
  
 Asc Mo
ok back to flatland after some real good work and a really good weekend. .. added yacc commenting to the site this afternoon. tweaked it a bit to be server independent and ran into my render nemesis. the callbacks come soooo at the wrong time its not funny, it forces you to cut and clone code. yucky. anyway, i have a problem getting at the permanent item link 'by the book', aka a callback. that means that the subjects of comment messages sent will be wrong more often than not. adding a title to the permalink link when i get the callbacks to get me to the data i neeed.

planning on renaming a few inconsistencies tomorrow. Thoughts was called HelloWorld to begin with. In various places links come up as helloWorld and Helloworld.. which works fine locally but never on the case sensitive unix servers. its a shame that the radio link mechanism does not even exist as a sub-routine. all the damn links are always gotten by hand based on code that's based on the context of where someone thought you would be calling it from. suuuuuch bad practice. but its in there. i'll patch my names and cross my fingers.

also planning a credits page for this site before i get back to the pages on sonic.net

# 03:19  Radio 
  
 Asc Mo
Tav hijacked my news aggregator! His XML feed included a redirect (commented out, below) to his new site. Hmmm... I see possibilities here. Muahahahaha!

ok, i put in a redirect:

    <meta http-equiv=refresh content="5; URL=http://tav.espians.com">

it's been fun exploring radio and the blogging community.

ciao.

[tav explores radio]
[Phil Ackley's Radio Thingumabob]
# 02:50  Radio 
  
 Asc Mo
CSS Koolaid. I swallowed the CSS Koolaid when I moved this weblog to its own domain (although I apparently still have a few kinks to work out, hiding my CSS from non-compliant browsers). Today, Dave Winer promised to swallow the CSS Koolaid "real soon now". Chris Casciano swallows a tall new glass of it every day before breakfast. Steven Vore is still choking on it. Jonathon Delacour tried it, but ended up spitting instead of swallowing. (I think I've taken this analogy about as far as it should go.) [diveintomark]

<g> yes. youdid. was this all a takeoff from last week's.. ..um swallowing story, mark?  

# 02:28  Radio 
  
 Asc Mo
"Here's an aha! (A mind bomb(?), at least for me!) Dane Carlson has figured out a way to find (with Google) sites that offer RSS feeds. As I understand it these are the sites that Radio users can add to their news aggregator. I'll be experimenting with this." [Steve Pilgrim's Radio Weblog]

See what I mean about Google? And BTW, if you're a Radio newbie like me, Steve's blog is must-see reading because he's asking all of the questions I haven't had time to ask. More importantly, he's getting answers.

[The Shifted Librarian]

@ 15:26 03/15/02
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