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Tuesday, June 04, 2002

Groovespace, blogspace, and Google: Q and A from Michael Herman

A little Q and A from Michael Herman, CTO of Parallelspace:

Q: What happens to edge-based content as it ages? e.g. a richly populated Groove shared space?

A: As soon as the content can be indexed and searched, it may physically live at the edge but logically, it becomes a center-based resource.

Q: What is Google?

A: Google is the world's largest distributed document management system. [Michael Herman, Parallelspace]

My question for Michael (with whom I had several hours of enjoyable debate, at ETCON, about Groovespace vs blogspace) is:

Q: How do you maximize the horizon of observability in Groovespace?

A: I don't know. I think about it a lot, though. I agree that edge services are key, but I don't see the whole picture clearly (yet).

4:48:38 PM    

"Its in the spec, it's ten lines of code, just bloody write it!" - Simon Fell
4:25:03 PM    

The weblog neighborhood, DJ'd and Blogdexified:

Standing on the shoulders ... Exploring Weblog Neighbourhoods with Blogdex. Inspired by Mark, and Dave, I've been doing a bit of neighbourhood exploration hacking of my own. [DJ's Weblog]

Here's mine.

2:45:08 PM    

Visualizing XML with Flash

Jeremy Allaire wrote to point out an interesting Flash visualization of the Macromedia resource feed. It uses the two extra metadata elements in the feed -- resource type and product -- as handles for filtering. The presentation is a bit confusing because your eye tries to put the product indicators into a tabular layout that is (falsely) implied by the resource type names. That row of names reads as a table header, but isn't one. Still, very slick!

Will we soon see a convergence of interest between the social network visualizers and the Flash developers? I hope so.

12:03:31 PM    

Bold neighbors

Some weblog neighbors who should be bold are not:

My Weblog Neighborhood.  Odd that my site is on the list but is not bold. [Sam Ruby]

I think I see the problem. Sam's page contains <link> elements in the body as well as the head. I suspect the fix is to run html.parseLinks against only the content of the <head> element of the HTML page. The harvester can perhaps use tcp.httpClient(method:'HEAD'...) instead of the default method:'GET'? I will try to fix this when I get a chance, but have no time today.

(These kinds of data-related bugs are fascinating. Is there a name for them?)

I spoke with Jon Schull yesterday, who's very interested in visualizing this data. As I mentioned to him, the weblog neighborhood tool is just one of many possible approaches. Its prime virtue, I think, will be to make visible who is, and is not, traversable in this new way. Once many blogs support the new style, there are many paths forward. Jon Schull, I hope, will do his own spidering and visualization. Ideally Google would exploit this new information as well. This is exactly what I meant when I said that the Google API is a two-way street.

9:53:35 AM    


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