Essays:

Userland -
-



Sam Ruby
< It's just data >

Updated: 9/1/2002; 6:58:05 PM.

Tuesday, July 30, 2002

it's absurd to emulate asynchronous behavior on top of the mapping of synchronous behavior on top of an asynchronous infrastructure;)
  10:26:46 PM    

Don Box: The specific epiphany I had today was as follows: There is a sweet spot in XML Schema that combines element wildcards (e.g., <xsd:any>) and D-B-R [derivation by restriction]. Specifically, if one terminates the content model of a complex type with the traditional element wildcard:

<xs:any minOccurs="0" maxOccurs="unbounded" />

That one can easily emulate D-B-E [derivation by extension] simply by peeling N particles in the derived type, one for each "extended" element.


  10:23:38 PM    

Thanks go out to James Strachan for committing my patch to Jaxen.  Now the gump build gets a bit further again.  Also, it looks like James liked my essay.  Thanks.  I continue to strive to find the middle ground between the Web Services and REST advocates, running the risk of alienating both camps.  Meanwhile, the ever moderate Jon Udell seems always be able to find the middle ground between my middle ground and the position that I am trying to moderate.  How does he do that?  
  1:04:51 PM    

Tomas Restrepo: First, I agree with Sam that this makes sense in a loose coupled world. Cool.  Second, this can also provide some pretty painful debugging and head scratching (wondering why your argument's are being ignored?)  Absolutely has, many times.  However, I don't think that's entirely the way to go. I think published interfaces should be in essence immutable.

Clearly, .NET (or is it SOAP itself?) has cemented association between XML and interface is too strongly.  Be back later today with something that may provide insight into other perspectives...  some REST advocates may find this amusing too.  For a hint... see Don Box's XML & Inclusion.


  1:16:23 AM    

Joe Gregorio Of course, the Amazon URL's I copied were originally very long but I had a sneaking suspicion that there was extra info in there and found that this much shorter URL works just fine. I guess they just don't make them as opaque as they used to...  LOL!

  12:14:49 AM    





July 2002
Sun Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri Sat
  1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30 31      
Jun   Aug

Click to see the XML version of this web page.


Related: Help link
Jon's Radio
Simon Fell > Its just code
BitWorking
The .NET Guy
Better Living Through Software
KeithBa's Blog
Web Hosting
REST + SOAP

Click here to visit the Radio UserLand website.

currently subscribed to:

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. 0xDECAFBAD RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Be Blogging RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Bitworking RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Bright Eyed Mister Zen RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Chris Dix's Thoughtpost RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Clemens Vasters: Enterprise Development & Alien Abductions RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. deem RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. dive into mark RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. DJ's Weblog RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Don Box's Spoutlet RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Eclectic RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. ericfreeman.com RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Ernie the Attorney RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Glen Daniels : it's all just metadata... RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Gordon Weakliem's Radio Weblog RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Greg Reinacker's Weblog RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Guido Casper's Radio Weblog RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. IK.VM.NET Weblog RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Ingo Rammer's DotNetCentric RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. It's Like Déjà Vu All Over Again RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. James Duncan Davidson RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Joel on Software RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Jon's Radio RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Lambda the Ultimate RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Loosely Coupled weblog RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Patrick Logan's Radio Weblog RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Peter Drayton's Radio Weblog RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. raelity bytes RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Ray Ozzie's Weblog RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Sam Gentile's Radio Weblog RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Sam Ruby RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Sanjiva Weerawarana's Radio Weblog RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. sellsbrothers.com: Windows Developer News RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Simon Fell RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. snellspace RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. The .NET Guy RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Tim Ewald's Ideas about XML and Web Services RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. toolbox RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. Wavicle RSS link

Radio UserLand users: click to subscribe. Other folks: use the RSS link to acquire this channel. www.davidwatson.org RSS link

Here's how this works.


Last update: 1/25/2002; 7:23:12 AM

© Copyright 2002 Sam Ruby

-