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Saturday, April 13, 2002
 

wikis and weblogs, individuals and groups


This post on http://www.decafbad.com/news_archives/000080.shtml ...

...The more these things happen, the more it starts to make me think maybe I should cut loose soon and take what I've liked about Radio and do some wheel reinvention and cloning in the Python-based things I was thinking about.

But I so want Radio to work well. It's got so many nice ideas in it. I'm just worried that there's too much bootstrap in there.

Posted by deus_x at April 11, 2002 01:51 AM

...caused me to suggest this...

Iíve got the same misgiving about Radio, and Iíve been thinking about the wiki weblog connection too (so, happy to make your
acquaintance ;-).

However, the pace of development in the Radio space is telling us something too. In particular, Simon Fellís Word-to-Radio-via Soap hack strikes me as an instantly invaluable tool.

Which brings me to Wiki/Weblog/Radio convergences. Iím thinkingÖ

* the most impressively wonderful thing about Radio is the authorís ability to work locally site and have the results mirrored on the hosted site. Its not clear a heavily-collaborated wiki site could or should survive that.

* Why then isnít the solution to build an RSS aggregrator into the wiki so that the contents of subscribed-to weblogs are displayed by the wiki. (Or are you trying to replace Twiki altogether via Radio? If so, why?) Now authors get to continue authoring weblogs in a tool optimized for weblogging and syndicating. But readers get to read (and even modify!) the syndicated content on a tool optimized for *that* purpose.

The whole issue of intercommunication between wikis and weblogs, and between individuals and groups, seems to be reaching critical mass and/or approaching critical collapse.  (Will he see my post?  Should I email it to him?  Should  I email this additional commentary to him? )     Is this redundancy good, bad, or redundant?  A description of best practices by those who think they know them (e.g., the Userlanders on how they collaborate via the Outliner) would be very useful.

 


comments? [] 9:22:41 PM    

Radio Extensibility


Simon Fell provides a nice narrative of how he went about figuring out how to add a macro to Radio.

I find myself amazed that people

  • are willing to root around this way to get something done
  • are able to to root around this way to get something done
  • seem to tolerate, or even enjoy the easter-egg hunt aspect of the effort.

 

 


comments? [] 7:58:50 PM    

Simon Fell's WordToRadio Works as advertised (including hyperlinks)


All is forgiven. It works beautifully. A refresh doesnít work for me. But double clicking on the Radio Icon in the system tray breings up the new stuff. Heres a paste from Opera: Dave is up after midnight pointing at work Simon Fell is doing with SOAP, the Blogger API, the Google API and Microsoft Word. Hereís a paste from IE (note hyperlinks are preserved). Dave is up after midnight pointing at work Simon Fell is doing with SOAP, the Blogger API, the Google API and Microsoft Word. What about images?  Saturday, April 13, 2002 Well, weíll see in a minuteÖ.

Ok, we saw.  No images, but the hyperlinks (including one around the image) are marvelously preserved.

My congratulations to Simon Fell for superb instructions, immortalized here.

Fire up Radio, open a quick script window and run

    user.soap.rpcHandlers.blogger = @radio.weblog.bloggerApi.rpcHandlers

In additional youíll want to goto the prefs page and make sure that XML-RPC & SOAP are enabled, and that the Blogger API is enabled. Now you can make SOAP calls to manage your blog.

The code is just a few simple Word macros that use PocketSOAP to make the SOAP calls to Radio. Make sure youíve got PocketSOAP installed, then download this VBA module. Now fire up Word and select Tools -> Macro -> Visual Basic Editor. Now import the module into your document, or if you want the macroís always available, import them into your template (expand the tree Normal -> Microsoft Word Objects and right click and select Import File).

Look at the top of the code, there are some settings you'll need to tweak. First you'll need to enter your username & password, these are configured in the Remote Access & Security prefs page. If you want to use Word on a different machine to the machine running Radio, you'll need to tweak the RADIO_URL setting. Finally if you need to connect via a HTTP proxy, you can alter the PROXY_SERVER and PROXY_PORT settings.

Now switch back to the main word document window, enter your post and hit Tools -> Macro -> Macros -> select PostNewBlogEntry and hit run. This will send the document as a new post to Radio. Now change the entry and run the UpdateBlogEntry macro, this will prompt you for a postID which will default to the just created post. This will now post the revised text as an edit to the original post. Hey presto youíre blogging from Word!

The post takes some simple HTML formatting from the document, link, italics & bold are all carried over.

You can use the Tools -> Customize options to assign the macroís to buttons on the toolbar and/or keyboard shortcuts.

Bing!


comments? [] 7:24:42 PM    


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