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Tuesday, November 08, 2005



Abuse Ain't The Same Thing As Torture

I should know - I abuse drugs and alcohol but I don't torture 'em." ...Dependable Renegade


Fine. Then shut down the black sites, tell Dick Cheney to stop lobbying against the McCain amendment, and allow the Red Cross unfettered access to prisoners in our custody. After all, if the events of the past four years had happened in any other country in the world — the abuse, the memos, the photos, the relentless opposition to independent inspections — isn't that the least it would take for any of us to believe it when that country's head of state declared "We do not torture"?

It's not going to be easy for the United States to regain its credibility as a country dedicated to combatting barbarism and supporting human rights. That's all the more reason we should start now.


Fareed Zakaria confirms what I've been thinking, that the war has for all intents and purposes been lost because of Abu Ghraib:

This is a case of more than just bad public relations. Ask any soldier in Iraq when the general population really turned against the United States and he will say, "Abu Ghraib." A few months before the scandal broke, Coalition Provisional Authority polls showed Iraqi support for the occupation at 63 percent. A month after Abu Ghraib, the number was 9 percent. Polls showed that 71 percent of Iraqis were surprised by the revelations. Most telling, 61 percent of Iraqis polled believed that no one would be punished for the torture at Abu Ghraib. Of the 29 percent who said they believed someone would be punished, 52 percent said that such punishment would extend only to "the little people."

Of course it's not torture. It's all fraternity hazing pranks, remember?

Support the troops by ignoring the Geneva conventions. That's how it works in gooper cognitive-dissonance land.

Yellow magnets on your car = "Supporting the Troops."

Voting for leaders who fail to provide basic body armor for the troops = "Supporting the Troops."

Calling for a pre-emptive war based on trumped-up WMD evidence = "Supporting the Troops."

But asking for them to be brought home so they can't be killed and maimed for the pointless reason of establishing an Iran-friendly theocracy in Iraq = "Liberal Treason."

Notice that Bush said: "Any activity we conduct is within the law."

Not

"We only act within the law." I think he honestly believes that he could authorize "any" action and, by definition, it wouldn't be torture.



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Other Stories according to Google: Body and Soul: Some humans ain ' t human | Body and Soul: Prisoner abuse in Brooklyn | Christopher Reed: Torture on the Homefront | Prince: Dear Mr. Man | Ray Hanania: Why They Hate Us | TalkLeft: More Iraqi Prisoner Abuse : Mock Executions of Juveniles | Word from Bush could end prison abuse | The Jawa Report: Kos Says US Torture 'Equal' To that of Saddam | AlterNet: Torture and the "Controversial" Arc of Injustice | AlterNet: Torture and the "Controversial" Arc of Injustice

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