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Updated: 9/1/2002; 7:02:31 PM.

Tuesday, February 26, 2002

Got to my hotel and guess who was in front of me in the registration line?  Simon Fell!  I drove us both to dinner where I met Glen Daniels (core Axis developer) for the first time in person.  A number of old friends like Keith Ballinger (with an i), Jonathan Hawkins, Mike Deem, and Tony Hong as well as a number of soon to be new friends were there.  There should be a lot more tomorrow.  I'm told that we should have 802.11 wireless acess, so if all goes well, I'll blog from the meeting.
  11:31:42 PM    

Stamp out HTTP.  This continues to be interesting.  Some people are looking to layer asynchronous and reliable delivery over HTTP, while others are advocating that we start over and re-solve the problems already addressed by SSL, keep-alive, session state, communication through firewalls etc.

Both are points on a spectrum.  From one perspective, HTTP is a transport which can support multiple protocols.  From another perspective, SOAP is a protocol which can be delivered over multiple transports.  Both are true statements, but depending on which one you focus on, you get different answers to real live engineering problems.  For example, should any authorization or state information be placed inside the SOAP envelope (i.e., in SOAP headers), or outside the envelope (e.g., as HTTP headers).  One thing is for sure, if I do it one way and you expect it another, we won't interoperate.

Personally, I'm torn.  As a software developer, I do feel the real itch to start over with a clean slate.  One can always find "justifications" for such an approach.  As an engineer, I see the pragmatic need to work with what we've got.  My guess is that we are in a transistion period that will last longer than any of us will like.  Back in the days when IPX, NetBEUI, Banyan IPC, and SNA were in vogue we had all sorts of gateways.  Ultimately, we said "the heck with that", and pretty much universally adopted TCP/IP.

I am a big believer in SOAP, but I suspect it will be some time before it displaces all other protocols.  Until then we will all have to stretch the protocols we have got well beyond what they were originally designed for.  Cockroaches indeed.


  11:21:40 PM    

Back on the road again.  This time with digital camera in hand.  Perhaps I will capture a few soapbuilders in action.
  12:56:58 PM    

W3C Royalty-Free Patent Policy [O'Reilly Network]


  11:12:17 AM    

XMl is not Aristotelian. It's fuzzy, and that's part of its power and its usefulness says Elliotte Rusty Harold.  The assumption is that validity is a boolean, i.e. either true or false, and that a document cannot be both valid and invalid at the same time; and furthermore that invalid documents are incorrect. In practice, though, that's not what XML is about. X stands for Extensible. [O'Reilly Network]  Agreed.  Contrasting the differences between validity and usefulness is the point of this essay.
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