Ottmar Liebert
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Sunday, 18 January 2004
 

Two Wines
[ignoring the point completely] I wonder if the two wines would age differently, one being a snapshot with no physical 'memory' of how it got to that point... - chuck d • 1/18/04; 7:06:56 AM
I think you are making an excellent point. The complex changes from grape juice to wine over time, or the evolving of a living being over decades - might be captured in a snapshot, and if they can in fact be caprtured, will the result age the same without the "experience" of getting there...In other words, if we clone a Buddha, or nano-tech a 1959 Bordeaux - will the result remain a Buddha without the support of the interior experience and will the wine remain excellent or age beautifully over time?

Or, if we could occupy the body of a Buddha, would we be able to sustain as a Buddha or would we fairly quickly fall back to our old self without the experience of the internal mind/soul changes that go along with becoming Buddha? Can you push the physical side and reap the automatic rewards on the internal side? Maybe a little bit, but the internal side would somehow have to catch up or it would not be sustainable, yes?

Maybe the nano-tech Bordeaux would be as good as the original bottle - for an hour or a day or a week, and after that time it might lose its special quality, that amazing aroma...On the other hand I think that experiencing Buddha even momentarily could spur a person on and create a little leap in the right direction, even if s/he would fall back somewhat from that plateaux....

Like looking through binoculars and seeing what lies ahead. Just knowing where the path lies, makes the distance less exhausting or remarkable.

I might know a little more about that in a month, because Ken Wilber invited me to experience the Big Mind process as administered by Genpo Roshi. Ken wrote:
the nice thing about this process is that it lets you get a full, authentic taste of zen, which usually takes at least 3 or 4 years of intensive meditation. you don't have to be a zen buddhist, or become a zen buddhist, or anything like that at all. it's just a simple but effective way to have a natural, spontaneous awakening of your own infinite mind. you can be a christian, jew, hindu, atheist, agnostic, etc., and it's not a problem at all.

one thing is for sure: if you want to know what a real zen satori is, it's either 2 hours of this or 5 years of meditation (:-).....
Will I be able to sustain the experience? I think it will take a lot of work, but it'll be nice to get a glimpse of the goal, or rather one of the goals on the way to infinity. I am a guitarist and I am used to practicing...

Regarding the 1959 Bordeaux - I think we mighht know the answer to your question 50 years from now....
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